Lord Ba'al
Supreme Deity
Posts: 6,260
Pledge level: Half a Partner
I like: Cats; single malt Scotch; Stargate; Amiga; fried potatoes; retro gaming; cheese; snickers; sticky tape.
I don't like: Dimples in the bottom of scotch bottles; Facebook games masquerading as godgames.
Steam: stonelesscutter
GOG: stonelesscutter
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Post by Lord Ba'al on May 21, 2014 0:37:48 GMT
I was just strolling through the Godus Kickstarter page and my eye fell on the Deity pledge level. As a Deity you would receive the following... Estimated delivery is set for September 2013.  Now a lot of the Kickstarter rewards have passed by in the past year and a half of discussions but I don't recall ever having seen anybody mention the exclusive Godus jewelry. I'm wondering if these 5 people who pledged for £999,- (or more) have ever received their precious rewards. Is this something that's still in the works? EDIT: Attaching list of all the Kickstarter rewards that have been delivered so far. Keep in mind that not all the backers may have received all the rewards they are entitled to while most of them have. For example, tee shirts have been send out by 22Cans but not everyone has received theirs. Those rewards will still be marked as "delivered" in the table. Also some rewards may be controversial such as the tee shirts not being personally signed or the alpha/beta access issue. If you disagree with any of the values I have attributed, those things can of course be debated in the thread. I'm just trying to fill out this table to the best of my ability. | Reward | Pledge level | Status | | Forum access | Backer and higher | Delivered | | Student forum access | Student | Delivered | | Godus digital dowload | Follower and higher | Delivered | | In-game achievement | Believer and higher | | | Making-of feature | Believer and higher | ? | | Design document | Believer and higher | | | Dev webcam | Believer and higher | ? | | Godus beta | Believer and higher + Student | Delivered | | 22Cans masterclass | Student | ? | | 22Cans follow | Benefactor and higher | Delivered | | 22Cans roll of honour | Benefactor and higher | | | In-game pet or familiar | Benefactor and higher | | | 2nd Digital copy | Benefactor | Delivered | | Signed tee shirt | Partner and higher | Delivered | | Your name on Curiosity | Acolyte and higher | Delivered | | Additional digital copies | Acolyte and higher | Delivered | | Personalized title screen | Associate and higher | | | In-game credit | Partner and higher | | | In-game statue | Partner and higher | | | Godus alpha | Partner and higher | Delivered | | Godus god power | Associate and higher | | | Wishing well | Valkyrie | | | Limited edition artwork | Elemental | ? | | Signed making-of book | Valkyrie and Elemental | ? | | In-game character | Immortal | | | Character figurine | Immortal | ? | | Help design a god power | Deity and higher | ? | | Diamond pendant | Deity, Idol, God of Gods 2 | Delivered | | Dinner at Peter's house | Idol | ? | | Monthly skype design meeting | Idol | Delivered | | 22Cans workshop | Idol | ? | | VIP visit to E3 expo | God of Gods | Delivered | | Guest at GDC expo | God of Gods 2 | Delivered | | Extra beta access | Add-on | Delivered | | Digital pack | Add-on | | | Soundtrack | Add-on | | | 22Cans tee shirt | Add-on | ? | | Godus tee shirt | Add-on | ? | | Godus artwork | Add-on | ? |
If you catch any mistakes please leave a message in the thread. |
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Post by Monkeythumbz on May 21, 2014 10:54:26 GMT
I was just strolling through the Godus Kickstarter page and my eye fell on the Deity pledge level. As a Deity you would receive the following... Estimated delivery is set for September 2013. Now a lot of the Kickstarter rewards have passed by in the past year and a half of discussions but I don't recall ever having seen anybody mention the exclusive Godus jewelry. I'm wondering if these 5 people who pledged for £999,- (or more) have ever received their precious rewards. Is this something that's still in the works? I had a chat about the KS pledges when I joined. I'm determined to see us fulfil our pledges as quickly as we can and I expect it will be on me to push much of that through. Right now I'm kinda focused on other things, but it's something I do want to get round to as soon as I can. |
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Lord Ba'al
Supreme Deity
Posts: 6,260
Pledge level: Half a Partner
I like: Cats; single malt Scotch; Stargate; Amiga; fried potatoes; retro gaming; cheese; snickers; sticky tape.
I don't like: Dimples in the bottom of scotch bottles; Facebook games masquerading as godgames.
Steam: stonelesscutter
GOG: stonelesscutter
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Post by Lord Ba'al on May 21, 2014 16:36:44 GMT
So the jewelry hasn't been sent yet then?
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Post by morsealworth on May 21, 2014 16:44:35 GMT
One more point to add to the lawsuit. We won't get our money back, but we probably will make 22Cans bankrupt.
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Post by Qetesh on May 21, 2014 23:10:36 GMT
I do think that ALL rewards should be given, before a penny goes to some God of Gods that won a clickfest and is not a backer, because without the backers there would be no profits to provide, so we should have priority over the distribution of any profits when you have not really created a true net off your gross, since part of your gross should go first to your backers rewards that you promised in the first place to get any of that gross.
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Post by hardly on May 21, 2014 23:35:30 GMT
So the jewelry hasn't been sent yet then? Classic. I hope the five partners weren't eagerly awaiting their "holiday season gift", fingers crossed for Christmas 2014. If I had put 1000 pounds into GODUS I don't think I'd be able to live with myself. That is the equivalent to donating 1000 pounds to the creators of FarmVille to help with the good work of exploiting people through micro transactions. Do those kidnappers in Nigeria have a kickstarter campaign for their good works? Too soon? |
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Lord Ba'al
Supreme Deity
Posts: 6,260
Pledge level: Half a Partner
I like: Cats; single malt Scotch; Stargate; Amiga; fried potatoes; retro gaming; cheese; snickers; sticky tape.
I don't like: Dimples in the bottom of scotch bottles; Facebook games masquerading as godgames.
Steam: stonelesscutter
GOG: stonelesscutter
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Post by Lord Ba'al on May 21, 2014 23:54:44 GMT
Please keep in mind that I didn't state that the Deity backers haven't received their jewelry yet. It is still a question at this point.
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Lord Ba'al
Supreme Deity
Posts: 6,260
Pledge level: Half a Partner
I like: Cats; single malt Scotch; Stargate; Amiga; fried potatoes; retro gaming; cheese; snickers; sticky tape.
I don't like: Dimples in the bottom of scotch bottles; Facebook games masquerading as godgames.
Steam: stonelesscutter
GOG: stonelesscutter
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Post by Lord Ba'al on May 21, 2014 23:59:48 GMT
Let's create a list of all the Kickstarter rewards and then have Monkeythumbz and Matthew Allen get back to us (in their own time but preferably a lot quicker than within 30 days) on which of these rewards have been delivered so far. In fact let me post a list in the opening post... |
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Post by hardly on May 22, 2014 0:03:03 GMT
Please keep in mind that I didn't state that the Deity backers haven't received their jewelry yet. It is still a question at this point. I hope the answer is that they already have their rewards. |
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Post by Qetesh on May 22, 2014 0:13:30 GMT
I'll bet the answer is, we cannot tell you unless you qualify for that reward. I know we personally are still missing several of ours.
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Post by banned on May 22, 2014 1:12:43 GMT
point of order!
"Signed tee shirt"
I got 1 of 2 promised (Sam swore there would be no problem with multiple pledges in a single as I was gifting folks.) so half delivered.
"Dev webcam" they did have a web cam on some occasions but don't know if it still up, but it is at least a "to some degree delivered"
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Lord Ba'al
Supreme Deity
Posts: 6,260
Pledge level: Half a Partner
I like: Cats; single malt Scotch; Stargate; Amiga; fried potatoes; retro gaming; cheese; snickers; sticky tape.
I don't like: Dimples in the bottom of scotch bottles; Facebook games masquerading as godgames.
Steam: stonelesscutter
GOG: stonelesscutter
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Post by Lord Ba'al on May 22, 2014 1:30:18 GMT
point of order! "Signed tee shirt" I got 1 of 2 promised (Sam swore there would be no problem with multiple pledges in a single as I was gifting folks.) so half delivered. This is exactly what I meant with some topics being controversial. "Dev webcam" they did have a web cam on some occasions but don't know if it still up, but it is at least a "to some degree delivered" Indeed I agree that it has to some degree been delivered, but as it remains a debatable issue I chose to put a question mark down for that one for the time being. I'm curious to see what other people have to say on this. Also would like to know what our community peeps from 22Cans think of all this. Personally I don't really give a rat's ass about the webcam. I think it was something that seemed like a fun idea upfront. Later I realized that it was a pretty dumb idea as you'd never really get to see anything and nobody likes being on camera all day. But then perhaps there are people who feel deeply about this issue and that is their prerogative. |
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Post by banned on May 22, 2014 1:34:37 GMT
...webcam. I think it was something that seemed like a fun idea upfront. Later I realized that it was a pretty dumb idea as you'd never really get to see anything... agree, w time zones there would never be a time I could even really watch the thing. I do remember asking they take the webcam to the pub so I could make fun of anyone that ordered other than a Guinness.  |
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Post by nerdyvonnerdling on May 22, 2014 2:32:15 GMT
Wait a minute. 'Design Document' was a kickstarter reward? So how does that jive with what George posted just today - "I should be sharing a blog update detailing our current sprint and a video from Peter about the iterative design process (i.e. why design doesn't rely on gold plated documentation) today"
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Post by Qetesh on May 22, 2014 4:53:25 GMT
Well,according to PM, the game on Steam Early Access was an Alpha and not Beta ( hence it's being un-playable) so they gave the exclusive Alpha to the public and screwed over the Alpha backers, so why not screw over some more?
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Post by hardly on May 22, 2014 5:01:01 GMT
Well,according to PM, the game on Steam Early Access was an Alpha and not Beta ( hence it's being un-playable) so they gave the exclusive Alpha to the public and screwed over the Alpha backers, so why not screw over some more? That's not quite correct. You see what Peter was saying is that when challenged about the quality it should be considered alpha but in terms of releasing it on steam and differentiating it from backers version he called it beta. Peter is the master of cognitive dissonance. What you should be thinking about was how they treated the EA release as the delivery of the game and the end of their kickstarter responsibilities. |
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Lord Ba'al
Supreme Deity
Posts: 6,260
Pledge level: Half a Partner
I like: Cats; single malt Scotch; Stargate; Amiga; fried potatoes; retro gaming; cheese; snickers; sticky tape.
I don't like: Dimples in the bottom of scotch bottles; Facebook games masquerading as godgames.
Steam: stonelesscutter
GOG: stonelesscutter
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Post by Lord Ba'al on May 22, 2014 5:08:20 GMT
Wait a minute. 'Design Document' was a kickstarter reward? So how does that jive with what George posted just today - "I should be sharing a blog update detailing our current sprint and a video from Peter about the iterative design process (i.e. why design doesn't rely on gold plated documentation) today" Now you know why people have been so pissed off about the design document. (not to mention other things) |
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Lord Ba'al
Supreme Deity
Posts: 6,260
Pledge level: Half a Partner
I like: Cats; single malt Scotch; Stargate; Amiga; fried potatoes; retro gaming; cheese; snickers; sticky tape.
I don't like: Dimples in the bottom of scotch bottles; Facebook games masquerading as godgames.
Steam: stonelesscutter
GOG: stonelesscutter
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Post by Lord Ba'al on May 22, 2014 5:17:14 GMT
That's not quite correct. You see what Peter was saying is that when challenged about the quality it should be considered alpha but in terms of releasing it on steam and differentiating it from backers version he called it beta. Peter is the master of cognitive dissonance. What you should be thinking about was how they treated the EA release as the delivery of the game and the end of their kickstarter responsibilities. We (alpha backers) have known ever since the talk about opening up the alpha (on the 22Cans forum back in, what was it, may of 2013?) that we were going to be screwed out of our privilige. We paid 100 pounds for something that soon after they were going to offer to the world for whatever amount (about 20 dollar?) they put the alpha on Steam early access for. Yes that says alpha. It was an alpha. It could be argued that even now we only have been given an alpha. I have NEVER considered the Steam release to be the end of 22Cans' responsibility towards Kickstarter backers. If I had to respond to the fact that Peter Molyneux thinks that he has fulfilled his responsibility to us then I can only respond by saying "Fuck you Peter Molyneux!" and then I would be phrasing it quite kindly. |
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Post by Qetesh on May 22, 2014 6:08:03 GMT
Well,according to PM, the game on Steam Early Access was an Alpha and not Beta ( hence it's being un-playable) so they gave the exclusive Alpha to the public and screwed over the Alpha backers, so why not screw over some more? That's not quite correct. You see what Peter was saying is that when challenged about the quality it should be considered alpha but in terms of releasing it on steam and differentiating it from backers version he called it beta. Peter is the master of cognitive dissonance. What you should be thinking about was how they treated the EA release as the delivery of the game and the end of their kickstarter responsibilities. I paid extra money for exclusive Alpha access and so for Peter to say that, was a slap in the face to the backers. If the game was not ready to be played it should have not have come out of Alpha and we should have had a few months and several builds instead of a few weeks and two quick builds to test the Alpha as promised. They asked us if they could open up the Alpha and we firmly said NO, and so they called it a Beta and released it to the Beta backers and not long after on Steam Early Access again, still calling it a Beta to get around breaking the promise to the Alpha backers. THAT is why he was kinda fucked either way at that point and there is no denying how badly he fucked over the Alpha backers, then Beta and now Steam. |
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Post by nerdyvonnerdling on May 22, 2014 15:32:47 GMT
Wait a minute. 'Design Document' was a kickstarter reward? So how does that jive with what George posted just today - "I should be sharing a blog update detailing our current sprint and a video from Peter about the iterative design process (i.e. why design doesn't rely on gold plated documentation) today" Now you know why people have been so pissed off about the design document. (not to mention other things) Yeah, that's crazy. I'm just catching up on that stuff - I bought the game during a steam sale I think in Sept or Oct for $9.99, 'cause I liked old rts god-games and I liked the artwork. To me, the game is just poorly executed, but if I were a kickstarter backer, wow I'd be pissed. If George's video update delves on the topic the way I think it does, I actually totally agree with the notion that if you have a broad outline, you don't need "gold-plated documentation" as it allows for a good deal of creative freedom and whatnot. But then, I never SOLD PEOPLE A DESIGN DOCUMENT AS A KICKSTARTER REWARD! Sorry for the caps, but that's an important distinction, there. |
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