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Post by Danjal on Aug 20, 2014 20:37:05 GMT
Kids need people that care for them and about them - but kids don't need 24/7 handholding in most cases. Especially when they get older. There's nothing wrong with a kid playing by themselves for a spell each day. And infact, as they get older, giving them a little bit of 'alone time' will teach them a lot of other things.
The fact is, everyone is different. The same goes for kids. So yes, SOME kids can't be left alone for 5 minutes or they'll wreck the place, light the house on fire and drink all the chemicals. Other kids learn to prepare their own food at an early age and there's nothing wrong with that.
Infact, I'd say that a 12-year-old that can't survive by themselves for an hour has significantly MORE problems than one that is left alone for an hour after school because the parents get off from work later.
So yes, there's no blanket rule on how to do parenting. Some kids can handle stuff other kids can't. The same goes for parents. Frankly I'm more worried about the parents that ARE at home with their kids, but just park their kids in front of the TV for 8 hours a day because they can't be bothered to actually spend TIME with their kids.
Also - speaking from my own childhood - from a certain age (I guess it probably was like age 8~9) I played outside with my friends. This generally was between school finishing and dinner, so say 1500~1800 give or take. My dad was working during those hours and while I had free access to the place he worked (I generally went there after school to eat and stuff), I also spend quite some time without direct supervision by my dad. He knew where I was, I knew where to find him. I turned out okay. It was during that same timeframe or perhaps a little later that I learned to prepare basic meals for myself. The situation demanded it so we managed together.
And yes, I lived alone with my dad... The fact is, I've seen kids that lived together with BOTH parents and had far more issues than we had with the two of us. There is no blanket rule possible to state what "kids need". It depends on the kids, the parent(s) and the situation.
Also, all of this is significantly off-topic.
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Post by Qetesh on Aug 20, 2014 20:40:56 GMT
True but we don't take issue with that here.
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Post by 13thGeneral on Aug 20, 2014 21:56:03 GMT
...snip... Also, all of this is significantly off-topic. I blame Peter.
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Post by bed on Aug 21, 2014 1:03:56 GMT
This interview filled me with disgust. F2P is the only thing that works on Mobile! except Minecraft, oh and that new game Monument Valley, but thats only because they're really really good and its risky to make an actually really good game so we HAVE to go free to play, don't you understand mobile? We said mobile in the kickstarter so OBVIOUSLY we have to go free to play stop your whinging I was bullied waaah waah. I was bullied at school too Peter, majorly, Bullying is unfair targeting - with godus you have constantly provided us with lies and mistruths and spin spin spin spin. And even with going free to play there is a simple way to do it - check out www.revolution60.com - its free to play the first 20 minutes or so of the game - so everyone can download for free and try it out - then there's a single paywall to unlock the rest of the game. If you believe so much that people won't shill out money up front before being able to be sucked into the game - do something like this! But no, because everything you say is BS and spin. I'm over it - I think Peter get so lost in his spin he believes it all and nothing is ever going to come of this potentially great game. Sad Sad Sad.
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Post by Danjal on Aug 21, 2014 1:12:55 GMT
Heh, you said it. Peter's definition of bullying is doing a collection for the private school festival (or something similar) then running away with the money to do something else like throwing a block party figuring more people would come and pay for snacks and drinks and complain that everyone gets mad at you.
Only to turn around and say that he promised you a party and its a party you got. And that nobody is forcing you to buy drinks. Besides, as people who paid for it, you get to come to the rehearsal and look at things as we're working on them! Acting like he's done nothing wrong and then counting out the money as random people are buying drinks.
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Post by 13thGeneral on Aug 21, 2014 2:15:15 GMT
Godus: The game of a thousand metaphors
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 2:23:13 GMT
Godus: The game of a thousand metaphors And ten thousand lulz. It's going to become quite the satire of itself before the 100% mark, isn't it...
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Post by morsealworth on Aug 21, 2014 10:26:43 GMT
Did you ever read my posts? I didn't disagree with you even once. Except of "god does care". Then again, why the heck should you try to make it look like a literature character is on your side (when he's not) and try to justify yourself (where is no need to as your standpoint at parenting isn't even questioned in the least) with the position of said character that opposes your point of view?
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Post by Qetesh on Aug 21, 2014 12:13:07 GMT
what is ridiculous is that PM puts this crap in a damn video game. I should not in the slightest bit defend why it is so offensive to me.
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Post by morsealworth on Aug 21, 2014 13:42:19 GMT
what is ridiculous is that PM puts this crap in a damn video game. I should not in the slightest bit defend why it is so offensive to me. I don't see offensiveness in the choice. I see offence in defaults from other people no matter what the question is. You are offended because this particular question is important to you (so important you become aggressive the moment the question is even mentioned). I am offended by the fact that someone tells me what to do.
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Post by Qetesh on Aug 21, 2014 13:50:02 GMT
what is ridiculous is that PM puts this crap in a damn video game. I should not in the slightest bit defend why it is so offensive to me. I don't see offensiveness in the choice. I see offence in defaults from other people no matter what the question is. You are offended because this particular question is important to you (so important you become aggressive the moment the question is even mentioned). I am offended by the fact that someone tells me what to do. I am offended by both. I am incensed by the fact that this is a product meant for everyone and yet he dares to even breach such a realm because he considers himself better than me and to know more than me. I am the mother fucking customer, make a product that would not even in the slightest bit have a chance of offending a soul or fuck off. Can I make a jelly and call it something like " for those that can't dance" since we all know certain stereotypes exist that would infer this product was geared for a certain race? Frak NO, you don't do that when trying to sell a product, but yet PM thinks he can do whatever the fuck he wants because he thinks he is a Video game God, he is not. He is a damn developer so do your damn job and make me a damn game where I AM THE DAMN GOD! I will decide who and what and how happens in my world, because I frakin am the God, not you PM, you are no more than a maid is, so do your job and clean the toilet as I tell you too, make the bed with the corners I want, you "work" for me, not the other way around, if you cannot figure that out, then please retire. You are here to make me happy, not the other way around. My customers suck sometimes too, but guess what, you are getting paid to make them happy so don't you dare to insult them or call them bullies. If you don't like the industry, kindly get out of it.
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Post by Danjal on Aug 21, 2014 14:28:20 GMT
Offensive or not, its pretty damned stupid to put out a statement as controversial like that and not expect people to respond. Which is behaviour that Peter exhibits quite regularly. This very article is proof of that once again. He opens his mouth and words come out without every going past his brain to see whether what he says is harmful or not.
Its for this very reason so many people are confused that he maintains in position to do the public talking - but since he's "the boss" nobody can stop him.
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Post by banned on Aug 24, 2014 22:31:28 GMT
Peter Molyneux:
"For me, I don't want Godus to ever feel like a game where a lot of free to play games make you say, "well if I spend £5, it will be about ten minutes later I'll spend another £5".
I can show you the analytics where people don't spend money like that in Godus. They spend £5 and then they don't spend any more money for a long time. And I can prove that it's fair in that sense."
I do not think it would be possible to make a stupider assumption on these cash shop analytics. Even Malfeasance is offended by the evil inherent in that statement.
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Post by Gmr Leon on Aug 24, 2014 23:12:52 GMT
Peter Molyneux: "For me, I don't want Godus to ever feel like a game where a lot of free to play games make you say, "well if I spend £5, it will be about ten minutes later I'll spend another £5". I can show you the analytics where people don't spend money like that in Godus. They spend £5 and then they don't spend any more money for a long time. And I can prove that it's fair in that sense." I do not think it would be possible to make a stupider assumption on these cash shop analytics. Even Malfeasance is offended by the evil inherent in that statement. You missed a great opportunity to point out they don't spend any more money for a long time because they quit playing.
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Post by zeruelb on Aug 25, 2014 7:34:59 GMT
Peter Molyneux: "For me, I don't want Godus to ever feel like a game where a lot of free to play games make you say, "well if I spend £5, it will be about ten minutes later I'll spend another £5". I can show you the analytics where people don't spend money like that in Godus. They spend £5 and then they don't spend any more money for a long time. And I can prove that it's fair in that sense." I do not think it would be possible to make a stupider assumption on these cash shop analytics. Even Malfeasance is offended by the evil inherent in that statement. You missed a great opportunity to point out they don't spend any more money for a long time because they quit playing. Cause they are offended by spending 5 Pounds and after 1 Minute have to spend another 5 Pounds maybe?
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Aug 25, 2014 19:02:07 GMT
Wow. For every ten haters there is someone who comes up with an idea and inspires the team. There must be an awful lot of inspiring going on. Not that we ever hear about it though.
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Post by 13thGeneral on Aug 25, 2014 20:28:06 GMT
Wow. For every ten haters there is someone who comes up with an idea and inspires the team. There must be an awful lot of inspiring going on. Not that we ever hear about it though. All the whining about stickers inspired them to change everything except the stickers; well, that's not entirely true - they actually made more stickers.
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Post by Qetesh on Aug 26, 2014 0:20:19 GMT
Wow. For every ten haters there is someone who comes up with an idea and inspires the team. There must be an awful lot of inspiring going on. Not that we ever hear about it though. All the whining about stickers inspired them to change everything except the stickers; well, that's not entirely true - they actually made more stickers. ....and much much longer timers.
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