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Post by 13thGeneral on Aug 23, 2014 3:05:54 GMT
Ok, anyone care to explain to me the reasoning behind this, who thought this was a good idea? In what gaming world is it ok to put your players through hours of torture gathering resources, waiting through hours (and days) of timers, and fighting a terribly imbalanced and overtly punishing adversarial mechanic (happiness & Astari), all while trying to be able to "repair" an expansion beacon... only to find that that beacon only expands the world to another expansion beacon? NOTHING ELSE!?! [why didn't you warn me about this, Danjal? lol  ] That's nuts. That preposterous. That's insane. Do you WANT players to hate the game - and, by proxy, the developers? Is there some reason you're actually actively trying to fail? This isn't clever. This isn't a hard earned reward. This is a joke. This is mockery. It's crap design and you know it. THAT is Godus - senseless, unreasonable, exhaustive, almost-enjoyable but not, punishing gameplay because... uh, bullshit reasons!  C'mon. Be better than this. It's embarrassing. (I know you can do it!) |
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Post by Gmr Leon on Aug 23, 2014 3:10:42 GMT
13thGeneral, clearly you're missing all the glorious content on the beginning island. Don't want you to be getting in too much of a rush and miss it, you know?
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Post by 13thGeneral on Aug 23, 2014 3:20:27 GMT
13thGeneral, clearly you're missing all the glorious content on the beginning island. Don't want you to be getting in too much of a rush and miss it, you know? You're right, there's just so much more I should accomplish first. What was I thinking?  |
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Post by Danjal on Aug 23, 2014 3:28:15 GMT
This? This has been in the game for so long now... I can't even remember when it was first added.
For as long as this island structure has existed (before, the second island had the volcano) its been like this.
Only now you need ore to rebuild the beacons.
I do agree though, its so random that you have to wait so many hours for a beacon to finish, only to gain a tiny sliver of beach and a massive stretch of ocean.
Sure, admittedly I'm one of those madmen who terrafirms half that ocean and makes it a gigantic follower-breeding facility.
So for me its not all lost. But still. We've already determined that I don't play Godus as its meant to be played right? =P
The least they could do is offer you some additional land to work with.
Also - why the hell are there still bits of terrain unaccessible on the first island after jumping to the second?
There's atleast half a dozen chests and various other things that I simply can not get to because of the way the beacons are set it and its annoying the hell out of me!
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Post by 13thGeneral on Aug 23, 2014 4:12:59 GMT
This? This has been in the game for so long now... I can't even remember when it was first added. For as long as this island structure has existed (before, the second island had the volcano) its been like this. Only now you need ore to rebuild the beacons. In my defense, I hadn't played since March - So I missed a lot of the 2.0.5 stuff.  The least they could do is offer you some additional land to work with. Also - why the hell are there still bits of terrain unaccessible on the first island after jumping to the second? There's atleast half a dozen chests and various other things that I simply can not get to because of the way the beacons are set it and its annoying the hell out of me! I know exactly what you mean.   |
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Post by nikink on Aug 24, 2014 4:15:18 GMT
See, this annoys me about the beacons and voyages. You can't build expansion beacons anywhere you'd like, you have to 'repair' beacons left behind by the awesome progenitor race who built them and didn't need them or something. And you have access to a boat (that your people can't build) to go on voyages, but they can't sail to the island that's RIGHT THERE.
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Post by Danjal on Aug 24, 2014 4:40:40 GMT
See, this annoys me about the beacons and voyages. You can't build expansion beacons anywhere you'd like, you have to 'repair' beacons left behind by the awesome progenitor race who built them and didn't need them or something. And you have access to a boat (that your people can't build) to go on voyages, but they can't sail to the island that's RIGHT THERE. This is what we call linear design. Everything progresses along a pre-set track, because its too hard to take into account the free will and unpredictable nature of the player. |
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Post by nikink on Aug 24, 2014 12:44:32 GMT
Indeed. And linear design sucks most of the time. Including here in Godus.
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Aug 24, 2014 12:49:56 GMT
Indeed. And linear design sucks most of the time. Including here in Godus. in Godus, since this kind of game just screams for freedom for the player to go in any direction they would like. |
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Post by 13thGeneral on Aug 24, 2014 15:06:37 GMT
Indeed. And linear design sucks most of the time. Including here in Godus. in Godus, since this kind of game just screams for freedom for the player to go in any direction they would like. Godus: The God game that forgets you're a God Perhaps there's a deeper narrative planned for the game that they just haven't fleshed out yet, and therefor we're not privy to the "How and Why" we're such an underpowered God. Unfortunately, right now it just feels like they can't figure out what that narrative is supposed to be, or even if there is one - and it's hurting the game. Are we a youngish God just learning the ropes and gaining power? Are we people around a table playing Gods on a giant board game? Are we a God whose power has dwindled and must regain the faith of the people? It's a mess, and will stay a mess, until they have a more solid plan. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 17:28:36 GMT
I'm just sitting here waiting to be able to sculpt "every inch" of my wondrous land. Anyone else gotten there yet?
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Post by engarde on Aug 24, 2014 17:56:43 GMT
I'm fully expanded, so against my better judgement I've decided to build a farm, actually I kicked the farmers out of astari ville which meant I went from useful expansion progress to slow, but at post ore 150, post population 5k there is nothing left in this build. Oh have anyone explained why this 2.2 is a couple of beacons shorter than its predecessors? Still no builders though I might kick a settlement in just for belief boost.
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Post by Danjal on Aug 24, 2014 18:22:22 GMT
I'm fully expanded, so against my better judgement I've decided to build a farm, actually I kicked the farmers out of astari ville which meant I went from useful expansion progress to slow, but at post ore 150, post population 5k there is nothing left in this build. Oh have anyone explained why this 2.2 is a couple of beacons shorter than its predecessors? Still no builders though I might kick a settlement in just for belief boost. They basicly refurbished the second island, taking out a bunch of stuff and putting the Astari in. I can only assume this is to accompany the removal of powers that were previously acquired through temple constructions (this is no longer the case) and likely to accompany future expansion on the very bare-bones Astari implementation. Then again... Its 22cans we're talking about, maybe they believe the Astari are perfect as they are and we simply "do not understand the grander vision". |
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Post by banned on Aug 27, 2014 2:27:33 GMT
See, this annoys me about the beacons and voyages. You can't build expansion beacons anywhere you'd like, you have to 'repair' beacons left behind by the awesome progenitor race who built them and didn't need them or something. And you have access to a boat (that your people can't build) to go on voyages, but they can't sail to the island that's RIGHT THERE. This is what we call linear design. Everything progresses along a pre-set track, because its too hard to take into account the free will and unpredictable nature of the player. or, in fact, actual game play, it seems. |
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Post by banned on Aug 27, 2014 2:28:25 GMT
Indeed. And linear design sucks most of the time. Including here in Godus. in Godus, since this kind of game just screams for freedom for the player to go in any direction they would like. obviously you're doing it wrong. Play like your supposed to. |
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Post by kez on Aug 27, 2014 3:49:56 GMT
I'm on the mobile version, and have discovered every beacon and treasure temple (2 of them) on the second island that I see. Is there nothing left to do? Population: 6579; Ore: 1213; Wheat: 2765; Belief: 1M. Currently I'm just building the world's tallest builder village. I assume it will crash the game pretty soon as it already doesn't fit on one screen. It's Breeder count is 1556.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 3:53:56 GMT
The only thing left to do, that I know of, is give Godus a 5 star review!  |
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Post by Danjal on Aug 27, 2014 5:34:19 GMT
I'm on the mobile version, and have discovered every beacon and treasure temple (2 of them) on the second island that I see. Is there nothing left to do? Population: 6579; Ore: 1213; Wheat: 2765; Belief: 1M. Currently I'm just building the world's tallest builder village. I assume it will crash the game pretty soon as it already doesn't fit on one screen. It's Breeder count is 1556. You make me proud - proving that the desire to push the limits of the game isn't something solely reserved for a handful of PC players. But also present among mobile players. Proving that not all mobile players desire a shallow and repetative simplified experience. Now if only more of you would speak out against Peter's desire for oversimplification. Showing him that a bit of depth and complexity is nothing to be afraid of. |
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Post by hardly on Aug 27, 2014 6:31:08 GMT
I'm on the mobile version, and have discovered every beacon and treasure temple (2 of them) on the second island that I see. Is there nothing left to do? Population: 6579; Ore: 1213; Wheat: 2765; Belief: 1M. Currently I'm just building the world's tallest builder village. I assume it will crash the game pretty soon as it already doesn't fit on one screen. It's Breeder count is 1556. Did you do all that without micro transactions?
I wish more of your brethren would post here. Do you guys have meetings or perhaps an email list?
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Post by 13thGeneral on Aug 27, 2014 12:13:19 GMT
If more mobile games had more depth and complexity, then I might actually play them.
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