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Post by Danjal on Oct 8, 2014 19:07:54 GMT
Danjal, I'm not arguing that the opt-in branch meets what was originally promised, or that feedback gained from it is in any way taken on board by 22Cans, or that it is managed in a way that demonstrates any particular value to anyone (either the community or 22Cans). We've seen minimal evidence of any of this. But you were criticising the opt-in builds for requiring a restart and being slow and unstable. Yes, they are all these things, but that's because it's the unstable opt-in built. It was always going to be that way. Community feedback has consistently been that we WANT to see the unstable test branches and the bugs/restarts aren't a big deal. I was a bit blase in saying the opt-ins are "exactly what we asked for" but you're moving the goal posts. If you want to make a case against the opt-in builds, pick a better argument than "it made me restart". My point was that George/22cans is now telling people to not complain if the opt-in causes restarts. Even though the "stable builds" cause restarts aswell. Its a bit of a mixed priorities situation where multiple things are crosscontaminating eachothers issues.
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Post by engarde on Oct 8, 2014 19:14:57 GMT
I agree with Engarde. If the game's pacing weren't so glacial, it would be nothing to complain about, but considering that it is, it's kind of insane to expect us to be willing to spend 40+ hours each restart just to see, oh, yeah, bug here. In which case, i suggest you wait for the main branch to be updated and disregard the Opt-In branch. I'm currently on opt-out, but only because the optout last update resulted in optin rewinding which screwed the pooch. The solution for which was optout and use an old save game to continue. As others have now remarked there is very little difference between both options right now in any case or are you saying that there is a noticeable difference because after playing only optin until the revert on last update I'm not seeing it. I'm fine with occasional optin you must start again, if and only if they don't need 100 hours to get back to where the bad thing happened(tm). If we take releasetest on spec that suggests that your own test efforts keeps forcing a restart for every ickle issue which is madness.
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