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Post by hardly on Oct 8, 2014 5:36:34 GMT
GODUS is a chore. How do I know this? Because like any chore I resent the activity I'm compelled to do. Building mines is a chore. Its excruciatingly boring. I have to flatten the land, then I build houses (which have to be micro managed for size), then I turn houses into a settlement, wait one day (doesn't always have to be that long but I only play GODUS once a day max), leash miners, build more houses, expand settlement, wait one day, repeat. For a given settlement I seem to get about 5 miners per expansion (give or take). So repeating this process for 30 times would give 150 mines. Currently I'm at 50 mines so 33% of the way there. A mining village card would make this easier but guess what? To get the card that would make it easier to get mines requires, you guessed it 150 mines. To add insult to injury larger mines don't count for more than one point so I need 150 mines, larger mines just take up more room. Don't even get me started on wheat. I don't even want the luxury abode card, it seems kind of crappy.
I want Peter Molyneux to take responsibility for this crap. I want to see him sit as his computer and grind this game out and then turn around and say that it is fun. I could tell from his body language that he was embarrassed showing his game off in yog-cast. With cheats there was literally about 20 minutes of content to show, everything after that was pointless grind.
One thing that strikes me is that GODUS as it stands is almost completely devoid of content. We have abode types that really don't matter, three types of settlements and three professions. Yay. Miners and farmers may as well be the same profession as they really just have a different skin. Then you have voyages and the astari. That is it. In fact you can see everything in the current build after a couple hours. Every expansion beacon after that takes you to? Nothing, it takes you to nothing. You may as well have the Arc at the top of the first island.
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Post by hardly on Oct 8, 2014 5:45:55 GMT
Its costing 45K+ belief per mining settlement now and I ran out of belief. Fuck my life.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2014 7:02:14 GMT
We mentioned this since first Alpha. 
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Post by engarde on Oct 8, 2014 7:13:52 GMT
It's not a chore, its a bore/drudgery. By my understanding of what I'd see as an American phrase, apologies if that's not its actual source - BUT - as I understand it chores are used to teach a child the value of something rather than diddums getting every thing it wants sans cost and or enforce 'whatever' or paw gonna give you a whoppum.
I paid full whack KS partner so I do not need to learn the value for it thanks, though I think 22cans and Peter in particular needs to learn that value.
If the game mechanics need to enforce game time to learn and leverage to see their full potent so be it. I've played many games that need me to change existing skills or technique, I'm not sure that anything we have can be described as that though.
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Post by Crumpy Six on Oct 8, 2014 7:19:02 GMT
Why are you even bothering to play it right now? I agree entirely that it feels like a boring chore, and while I'm keen to give 22Cans constructive feedback to help them improve the game (and I guess someone has to take that bullet, but I'd say 22Cans have got the message by now) I'm not going to dedicate hours of time to excruciating tasks on that thankless pursuit.
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Post by engarde on Oct 8, 2014 7:31:52 GMT
If only it were hours of time.
Seriously it took me over 100 continuous hours of actual play to expand to my current maxed out save game.
I have had 2 weeks of enforced inability to play with the optin branch imploding, but right now its more like minutes or even seconds a day of play. Even then its more checking that it hasn't imploding, again.
If you think they have got the message I think you are kidding yourself.
After we have a couple of timely updates across platforms, then maybe I could be convinced they got the message.
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Post by hardly on Oct 8, 2014 8:07:50 GMT
Why are you even bothering to play it right now? I agree entirely that it feels like a boring chore, and while I'm keen to give 22Cans constructive feedback to help them improve the game (and I guess someone has to take that bullet, but I'd say 22Cans have got the message by now) I'm not going to dedicate hours of time to excruciating tasks on that thankless pursuit. Because enjoy being a spectator to this slow motion train wreck. I am amazed that 22cans keep on doing what they are doing. |
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Post by Crumpy Six on Oct 8, 2014 9:14:56 GMT
Why are you even bothering to play it right now? I agree entirely that it feels like a boring chore, and while I'm keen to give 22Cans constructive feedback to help them improve the game (and I guess someone has to take that bullet, but I'd say 22Cans have got the message by now) I'm not going to dedicate hours of time to excruciating tasks on that thankless pursuit. Because enjoy being a spectator to this slow motion train wreck. I am amazed that 22cans keep on doing what they are doing. I completely get that (and that is partly why I'm still participating in the community) but I don't really understand why you'd deliberately subject yourself to the current terrible iteration of Godus if all it does is cause you endless hours of frustration. I would like to try some of the newer features, like the updated settlements and the Astari, but I don't regarding it as being a playable game presently so I'm waiting for the BFE, or possibly the balancing adjustments that are supposed to be coming with Wayworld. Ultimately you wouldn't be playing Godus at all if you weren't deriving some kind of satisfaction from it, and that's possibly what 22Cans will take away from this. |
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Post by engarde on Oct 8, 2014 9:36:38 GMT
When I opted back out and recovered a non-broken save, as in allegedly broken by the optin wind back, the only actual new content were the now expired unavailable voyages. I do not see torches as new content so would have ignored a gem based addition whatever its rational. Since they have on occasion reset voayges I'm interested to see if the new ones are any better than the previous, though they would be hard pressed to be worse. Not that
anyone anywhere appears to be commenting on the new content.
Per the previous issue I raised on another thread, I find it hard to justify not still at least trying to play and complain that we have no play. That's just my make up for better or worse.
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Post by 13thGeneral on Oct 8, 2014 12:39:58 GMT
I stopped playing about almost 3 months ago, and have so much more time to play other games that don't give me ulcers or pull out my hair. Seriously, don't give them the pleasure of knowing you're playing even when you claim to hate it so much.
Until, and unless, something major changes I have no desire to play and give them that satisfaction.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2014 1:55:22 GMT
I've stopped playing until I see something substantially change. I doubt that will ever happen, but I have a spark of hope the PC sprint (if that ever happens) will produce something worthwhile.
I'm not suggesting we give up on keeping them honest, or give up on our investment, but as far as spending time in a game... there are simply too many alternative studios/games/ideas out there worthy of a gamers time/attention than this boring pile o' shite iteration of Godus.
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Post by Danjal on Oct 9, 2014 2:53:54 GMT
If only it were hours of time. Seriously it took me over 100 continuous hours of actual play to expand to my current maxed out save game. I have had 2 weeks of enforced inability to play with the optin branch imploding, but right now its more like minutes or even seconds a day of play. Even then its more checking that it hasn't imploding, again. If you think they have got the message I think you are kidding yourself. After we have a couple of timely updates across platforms, then maybe I could be convinced they got the message. Isn't it lovely and zen-like. You just touch it up and then let it grow on its own. They pretty much made the goal of the game to watch grass grow and paint dry. |
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Post by engarde on Oct 9, 2014 7:45:31 GMT
Nah you see the current, reported, issue is that if I touch it it undermines some other screen location, not where I touched. So just because you thought you wanted to raise that level just there, PM decides that the pixies should instead remove several just there instead.
Touch pad/mouse more or less functions correctly, but I'm in no rush to wear out my touch laptop's integrated touchpad.
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