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Post by Danjal on Oct 22, 2014 16:23:21 GMT
You're missing another option. If enough of the backers (especially the higher tier ones) get together and petition a larger games media source (or multiple) and bring attention to the fact that they backed hundreds of dollars what was pitched as a PC title. Only to get a freemium game delivered. I think that getting this to the attention of the right people will most definitely have serious repercussions.
Afterall, every big news site loves a good scandal - and kickstarter failures are all the rage currently.
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Post by distraction on Oct 22, 2014 17:35:57 GMT
especially considering the prize structure they had on kicksarter, all those digital rewards hinted at gameplay features but we haven't seen any of those for over a year now!!!!!!! the site clearly says that you have to set the date for completion (september 2013 for GODUS) for when you realisticaly think you'll have delivered ALL rewards. this nonsence about 'but we delivered the beta on steam early access' doesn't fly, all those digital rewards...and the gameplay it suggested that comes with it...
Someone must know a lawyer in England who knows about this kinda stuff and can organise people togther?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 20:32:20 GMT
You're missing another option. If enough of the backers (especially the higher tier ones) get together and petition a larger games media source (or multiple) and bring attention to the fact that they backed hundreds of dollars what was pitched as a PC title. Only to get a freemium game delivered. I think that getting this to the attention of the right people will most definitely have serious repercussions. Afterall, every big news site loves a good scandal - and kickstarter failures are all the rage currently. That was the last option i mentioned. Maybe i didn't made it clear. But what would it change? They wouldn't care much because they don't care about what pc gamers think anyway. They got as much money from Kickstarter and SEA as they could. Now most PC gamer know about the game, i think sales aren't that good anymore (if not they wouldn't sell it for 1.59 on Sales - wait for Halloween-Sale on Steam - i am sure Godus will be there with some funky pumpkin trailer and new torches for a Dollar or so). No, they don't care about. We all know that it would take a lot of time, work and money to make the pc game out of godus. So the market they care is mobile and most mobile users don't care about games media. Games media will make some stories, maybe they would ask Peter Molyneux what he has to tell, Peter will tell the Story of the bad community which destroyed the game and don't understand game development - then everything is ok - lastly they want to get some interviews from Peter in the future. But would it change anything? They have choosen to go this way some time ago, i am sure they know that mobile has to be a success. You have seen it at curiosity, there wasn't a pc Version. Godus has some kind of pc version because they needed the money, that's all.
And how would you bring those backers together, most of them left months ago. That's what it makes so easy for 22cans, backers are a bunch of random people from all over the world - it's not easy to unit them. Most of them backed less then 50$, that's an amount most people don't care enough to do something.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 20:37:36 GMT
It's a shame the studio/business isn't run from America. From what I understand 22cans could be compelled by a court during the course of a class-action lawsuit to relinquish the entirety of their Kickstarter/SEA user records for the specific purpose of contacting any potentially interested parties that were affected by this... "misunderstanding".
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Post by Danjal on Oct 22, 2014 20:41:38 GMT
What it'd do? I ask you this, while 22cans may not care. I suspect that Valve does care about their reputation. And their system being connected with yet another one of these clusterfucks.
And I know what Valve did in response to the previous Early Access titles that delivered less than satisfactory results. Similarly I suspect that Apple would care if their 'no beta' policy was put in question - although this one is easier to talk your way out of by claiming that the PC and iOS developments are seperate, though that in turn would go against the "cross-platform development" claims of noth the steam store page and the kickstarter.
I doubt that anyone is going to buy Peter's story about a bad community when confronted with a list of facts and unsatisfied backers. The key being, where are those backers that backed £100 or above. Perhaps even more essentially, the ones that backed thousands.
22cans would be forced to respond. They may not like to, but they'd be forced to if this gets picked up.
Course thats all speculative - you'd need to get your hands on the contact details of atleast a couple dozen backers to begin with (from the higher tiers). You'd need to get a nice list of 22cans claims that have been broken over the course of almost 2 years of development. And so on. You'd need people to cooperate. As opposed to sitting on their hands.
Right now Valve can claim ignorance. Right now 22cans can ignore the community and focus on iOS.
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Post by Qetesh on Oct 22, 2014 21:54:56 GMT
I would sign it, and I am in the over 100 pound mark. The easiest way to find the other backers would be to make your own kickstarter, call it the Karma kickstarter and make the goal insanely low and just enough to get on Kickstarter and find many of those backers.
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Post by Danjal on Oct 22, 2014 23:00:28 GMT
An interesting read with regards to "corporate speak" Small excerpt: Heh... Misrepresenting a product you say?
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