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Post by Spiderweb on Mar 2, 2015 7:43:58 GMT
One glaring thing in my opinion, that seams missing from the game is some sort of end goal, a motivating force that drives you forward. Is it to collect stickers? Is it to attain 100% happiness, is it to reach a certain population threshold. I have no idea because the game doesn't tell me, I assume the game doesn't even know itself. At the moment it seams like there are no goals, no end point to work towaards. The voyages part of the game which appears to be generally looked down upon by the players. Does provide a basic motivation, you have to save your guys by getting them from point A to B. So why is this part of the game, which appears to give some reason to play being avoided? I have my suspicions about it being too simple or to annoying (you should be able to switch of their whistling) but is there some other reason why people don't like it? Could it be because it just doesn't mesh with the rest of the game where you are essentially a city planner, and this part of the game provides you no ability to build anything? If this were settlers then I could picture my guys setting up a base camp, then producing weapons, training up some fighters, and then conquering territory. But here we have no such ability. There is almost no strategy involved other than avoidance. If that's all your able to do then after doing that repeatedly your going to get bored of it. I don't think its an end goal that's lacking, I think its a lack of an ability to progress meaningfully and a lack of scope for creativity. Look at minecraft, what is the end goal there?
GODUS needs progression, but not the kind of progression we have now where we expand without reason and without progress. Current progression is like those nano doomsday scenarios where the whole world is taken over with black sludge.
For me the goal of GODUS should be to develop your faith, these are your people because they believe in you and I want to have them worship me in the most advanced ways. So at the start of the game they live in mud huts subsisting on a hunter gather lifestyle and worship me by offering me pieces of meat. The game should be about developing from this to a modern utopia where they worship me through the creation of vast wonders. I imagine a great capital city like Mecca, Rome or Jerusalem sitting in the middle of a religious empire spanning many cities, even nations. It would be funny to have religious wars between cultures and then sub culture wars between petty nations who believe in you. Combat like that would be more interesting to intervene into if it was two nations fighting who both worship you. I'd like to see a great nexus of trade and religion form at the centre, so that expansion fuelled its growth as wealth was channelled to the centre. Then the "end game" would be who creates the most elaborate empire. This would be enhanced if have different types of terrain was necessary so you'd have creative maps where people designed terrain around both aesthetics and efficiency. This is what GODUS should be, not this pale imitation of a game.
I forgot to say who needs story or levels when you have creativity instead.
Got to be said the timeline needs improvement, that's where we should progress, but they really need the art for that and apparently art had nothing to do on Godus so the were moved on!
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Post by Spiderweb on Mar 2, 2015 7:52:12 GMT
I imagine a great capital city like Mecca, Rome or Jerusalem sitting in the middle of a religious empire spanning many cities, even nations. It would be funny to have religious wars between cultures and then sub culture wars between petty nations who believe in you. Combat like that would be more interesting to intervene into if it was two nations fighting who both worship you. It certainly would. And it would also be a great way to implement those commandments. Some people believe this way is the way you would like them to behave, some believe that way is the way you want them to behave. They start fighting. You help out the people that behave in the correct way and/or strike down those who don't. Presto, a commandment is born. Of course you would need some kind of indicator of what they are fighting about and of what each side's individual opinion is. I could picture a system where an idea bubble appears over a persons head. If that person meets another there are three possibilities. Either the other person accepts the idea as his own, opposes the idea and forms an alternate opinion, or is completely indifferent to the idea whatsoever. The latter could be achieved by giving each follower a random influentability factor. Once a lot of people get the same idea and a group of others has an opposing idea a conflict could arise between 2 or more factions. A perfect opportunity for god to intervene, or for god to sit back with the feet up and enjoy the show. That's a very interesting idea, almost removes the need for combat in the form of another competing God, more your own people fight and you intervene if you want and they learn from that. Very cool, wouldn't make all the RTS fans happy, but would of fulfilled some of Peters promises for Godus reimagine of the god game.
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Post by jpw on Mar 12, 2015 16:19:15 GMT
Only just seen this, sorry, how did it all go?
I've really just thought it is best to give up all hope when it comes to Godus. But for a few cheap tricks I can't see this turning into the game we were promised 2(?) years ago.
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Mar 12, 2015 16:25:27 GMT
Only just seen this, sorry, how did it all go? I've really just thought it is best to give up all hope when it comes to Godus. But for a few cheap tricks I can't see this turning into the game we were promised 2(?) years ago. It was kinda fun to feel the community spirit.
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Post by Aynen on Mar 12, 2015 17:47:40 GMT
I'd definitely like to do more with the simultanious streaming. Even if it's not Godus related, it's fun to do something together like this.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2015 17:54:31 GMT
Can someone show the Military settlement thing, and post the video on this forum? It seems there've been 6 updates in the option-branch about it, etc, and refering to last doc update 7... gracie. ^^ (the godus exe, as for me, s seen as a virus I recall )
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Mar 12, 2015 18:37:06 GMT
I am not on the opt in branch myself. Who is?
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Post by Spiderweb on Mar 12, 2015 20:30:38 GMT
I am not on the opt in branch myself. Who is? I am but lost all my saves world editing, military in current opt-in isn't really that exciting, when the new combat stuff is realised it might be worth taking another look. Currently you get military settlements that produce archers for you to use stopping Astari Raiders.
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Mar 12, 2015 20:44:33 GMT
I'd definitely like to do more with the simultanious streaming. Even if it's not Godus related, it's fun to do something together like this. So are we considering doing something like this this weekend? I am off for the next 3 days (hooray!) but Qetesh's birthday is this Sunday and I think she has plans to go out on Saturday so I don't know if we can squeeze it in. But then our presence is of course not required. So who's got plans?
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Post by 13thGeneral on Mar 12, 2015 20:57:39 GMT
I'd definitely like to do more with the simultanious streaming. Even if it's not Godus related, it's fun to do something together like this. So are we considering doing something like this this weekend? I am off for the next 3 days (hooray!) but Qetesh's birthday is this Sunday and I think she has plans to go out on Saturday so I don't know if we can squeeze it in. But then our presence is of course not required. So who's got plans? Well, I really should do housework this weekend in preparation for Spring cleaning - the place really needs to be decluttered, dusted, and vacuumed badly. I am planning on getting the livingroom prepped for a new sofansectional, too. I've already put it off all winter... Although, I was considering doing a few more hours on my Twitch stream (continuation of Game Dev Tycoon), once I felt semi accomplished with a day of cleaning. So, chances are I'll be on/around anyhow if anyone else is looking to play/chat.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2015 22:14:39 GMT
So are we considering doing something like this this weekend? I am off for the next 3 days (hooray!) but Qetesh's birthday is this Sunday and I think she has plans to go out on Saturday so I don't know if we can squeeze it in. But then our presence is of course not required. So who's got plans? Well, I really should do housework this weekend in preparation for Spring cleaning - the place really needs to be decluttered, dusted, and vacuumed badly. I am planning on getting the livingroom prepped for a new sofansectional, too. I've already put it off all winter... Although, I was considering doing a few more hours on my Twitch stream (continuation of Game Dev Tycoon), once I felt semi accomplished with a day of cleaning. So, chances are I'll be on/around anyhow if anyone else is looking to play/chat. 13thGeneral To me, you pretty much have the lead with what you have done already introducing your own videos, and being aware of the "subject" ... Well, I(and more of us) would just ask for some short video, around 3/4 min. No need really to go deeply into those new features, which are not totally developped I presume... One little question: nobody else watching or playing those Godus games, doesn't feel sleepy and bored with all the sound atmosfear, and repetitive sounds and background music, and emptiness of the game field ??
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Post by Qetesh on Mar 13, 2015 17:00:34 GMT
I am looking at us doing some of this on Sunday. We are going out on Saturday to celebrate and chill in with some munchies for actual B-day on Sunday.
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Post by lexihel on Mar 13, 2015 18:11:35 GMT
Sorry I got late to this one, Work and class and a lot got in the way so I was unable to properly check the board. How did it go? Did you make it? Is it still pending?
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Mar 13, 2015 18:16:29 GMT
Sorry I got late to this one, Work and class and a lot got in the way so I was unable to properly check the board. How did it go? Did you make it? Is it still pending? Yeah we did do it. Turns out godus is more fun when others are playing too.
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Post by rubgish on Mar 13, 2015 23:53:19 GMT
I most likely won't be able to make this Sunday, I have a lot of work I need to catch up on. I may be around sunday evening (GMT timezone) if my simulations all run correctly though
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