Peter conference talk from a while ago.

I get that peter tries desparately to please whatever audience he is speaking t but it reasses the question of which is message is true. Is is true that at the time of shooting that video peter considered GODUS complete but for the mobile fluffery? Seems plausible.

Do you get it now, do you see his vision? Isn't it delicious? I can't believe we were so oblivious all this time to his inexplicable ignorance of how to do games stuff!

Then if it doesn't hurt you in any way, then why hurt yourself by appearing to try to hide it? I can now understand why there was a CM meeting and the subforum restructuring around a whitewashing campaign, as let's not fool ourselves that the only reason why the off-topic post "A little praise..." wasn't moved before was that it was serving for the desired public narrative. When it no longer did, it was safely filed away to keep the embarrassments to a minimum.

All in time for the sale.

This is what I mean by Streisand Effect, to which it appears that some took it as advice on what to do and not a warning.

That is unless 22cans goes by "Any attention is positive attention" since PM's goal is "everyone in the world". Except that you're not going to have a good impression when a customer comes to certain realisations and that you've been hiding info from them.

In game development terms, Lowest Common Denominator doesn't make a good game, nor did it make any of PM's previous games great. In this conference, PM served up disingenuous marketing to an art form. He's now spewing marketing rubbish when he should be instead speaking about design, most evident after he trashed Dungeon Keeper on mobile and then started taking notes on how to do the same thin himself.

Here, I'll help you out by telling you the Godus' post-mortem article by just everyone who isn't still drinking the Kool-Aid: "Godus wasn't Peter Molyneux reinventing the god game - it was him cashing out and abandoning it."

The video puts it clearly no matter who you are.

Therefore, PM now serves as an object lesson of what not to do if you still want to keep up a decent reputation, so that should be considered in context to speaking to other developers at a conference.



Oh, so you mean others who might be interested to know the details of the Guildford Game Grifter's little scam, where he counts what went wrong as he didn't sucker enough people into giving him money before he had a product to offer offload and then turned it into mobile shovelware to milk addictive personalities? (Is that how, if I buy Godus, that PM would help me help myself?)

Sometimes when Peter Molyneux speaks he almost sounds like he missed a career as a marketing suit for tobacco industry.

Yes, I can fully see why 22cans would want to keep all that from consumers customers future marks around the digital West End of Steam to sell tickets to a free public performances of "Ultimate God Game".

Perhaps instead of trying to chase the money by superficial design, PM should go back into what made him a legend and what rightfully earned him an OBE for Bullfrog. The former is subverting any potential for any hope of the latter's quality again, and if the designers in the audience weren't the naive suckers PM wanted in his recruitment for new potentials to damage at the end they know this fully well.

Peter Molyneux became the exact same thing he said he was escaping from when he formed 22cans.

This is getting so bad and obvious that it doesn't take a designer to see the writing on the wall - more and more customers are onto the grift simply because they could see better examples elsewhere who aren't selling out their integrity, reputation, and honour, and they're able to while providing the gamer with a good game.

PM's own early career, while it was marked with over-promising, wasn't sounding like a marketing muppet going "Money, money, money, money, money..."

We've seen this "experience" before PM "gave it to us" - mostly from the likes of Electronic Arts.



Pardon me? I do believe you just told me to go f*** myself.

Unless this game starts to resemble a part of the Early Access program - namely in becoming something other than vegetative shovelware compared to any of the games listed by 22cans in their Kickstarter by addressing the PC/Mac/Marmalade Gives Us An Easy Excuse to Lie for Linux Users Money - then I have no reason to pay to test what appears destined for the mobile anyways.

Plus it would be silly for 22cans to marginalise their cash cow audience on mobile more than they have their Steam customers.

There is also the problem that without a resource overhaul that combat production would not be sufficiently balanced enough so that future multiplayer would only require minor tweaks. Further "iterations" would likely require another deep reworking after already having worked upon it before, leading to retreading ground repeatedly via bad overall production planning no matter how you want to excuse it, and if there were any but designers new to the industry being preyed upon there at 22cans (to give this a bit of treatment right before it's Spacebased) then they'd be fully aware of this problem. No offence to Konrad, but it's clear he's being taken advantage of by being put into the position PM ran from. Speaking of 22cans staff, Fabs on post-release "development" was clearly wasted...and I think he knew it.

But no, input is just limited to whatever 22cans' management outlines for the Steam users in crayon while they subvert the efforts of those in actual development to actually offer a PC game.

Over two years of development and the game's state still resembles a tech demo with what would seem to a PC user as placeholder mechanics? For a PC game it feels like it's just sitting there not knowing what it's doing but slugging along on a visual ProgressQuest. Well, considering that this game is "fully released" then I'd have to say that as per mobile tradition - PM has successfully grifted a cheap knock-off copy onto mobile like a bunch of other shovelware developers, adding to the mass of half-arsed games that represents the majority of the mobile game development industry.

If there's a PC designer who can't see how any real potential for Godus' design has been fundamentally destroyed by PM acting as his own Big Corporate Publisher then they're probably not worth their paychecque.

The core problem is that PM hasn't yet realised that he now sucks at playing his own development god game after having sacrificed his own faithful to the Publisher of Doom, and he won't ever until the money flow he obtains dishonestly - that he counts as "success" - stops.

Success isn't what you get now in the moment - it's what you continually work on for the future.

Or does he expect that by releasing a new game that he will somehow get them back? He seems to act, which is observed in the CM relations on Steam and the "You gave me money, it's now mine!" attitude towards his Kickstarter backers, as if his own resources of fans are entirely disposable.

Other designers have noticed this, though haven't really been speaking out on stage about it. Many speak to each other about how a great developer has fallen, someone we used to look up to years ago.

PM has since become an example among some developers of what to do if you wish to get rid of your own fans, while bringing people together - though not necessarily to buy whatever you're pitching at the moment.

No longer.

So much for going for the entire world, hm?

P.S. I did notice a bit about Annah that in addition to the holiday-themed art she's making some assets for combat units, which is a good start. I can't wait to see her work, as I'm sure the players of Godus would similarly do.

I lol'd. It's almost as if it's scripted it's so predictable...

It makes you wonder if certain people are even capable of objectivity... or if there's another reason they continue snorting the hallucinogenic, stale farts up from between PM's bum-crack.. 

At a certain point loose and deliberately ambiguous language that has the effect of misleading is lies, Aynen and Muir don't seem prepared to accept that such a point exists.

Peter told that audience godus was complete because it fit his narrative and justified moving people on to a new project. In other forums he will say it is a work in progress because that is the message that fits that audience. The truth is somewhere in between as it is close to being space based but 22cans are sticking it out for now.

The sad thing is the factor that will probably decide its future over the next 3-6 months is how many microtransactions they achieved as a result of the eggquniox.

Judging from the comments on the Godus Facebook Page, it looks like the "Eggquinox" is a #22CansClassic in every way.

I sense much fear in him.

Now supposedly the development is treated as two separate entities.

RIIIIIIIIGHT! Who believes that now after the litany of lies about the same thing from before?



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(Mirrored in the tweets thread.)

Anyone else see any indication of this (such as those fellows who tell us what everyone has been working on), or is it just yet another piss-take?

lol, he's right, I don't believe him. But it's not because I think he's lying, it's because I don't trust 22cans to not mislead him. Only time will tell whether the versions will move apart sufficiently to meet our expectations.