Lord Ba'al
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I like: Cats; single malt Scotch; Stargate; Amiga; fried potatoes; retro gaming; cheese; snickers; sticky tape.
I don't like: Dimples in the bottom of scotch bottles; Facebook games masquerading as godgames.
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Jun 22, 2015 17:23:05 GMT
Ah general, I was just about to post something similar but you beat me to it. Since Simon and Colin came to our little slice of heaven we have received several informative updates. Sure it can still get better, it always can. They have also been reading the forum a lot and furthermore they are actually responding, and not just on the positive threads. I for one would like to see this kind of activity continuing and I hope that together we can make the relationship between the community and 22cans grow stronger. I don't see a reason for throwing a wrench in the already rickety machine at this point. I like what I've seen so far from the new guys and I think they deserve our respect. (Don't be mean you bunch of bullies!  ) Just joking. We have all been scorned by the events of the past. We are all disappointed. We have all been outraged at some point or another. We will never forget. Is it really necessary though to rub all of our built up anger and frustration in their faces at every turn? What good is that going to do us at this point? I think we would all stand to profit more if we would use our focus to nourish our unstable relationship instead of tearing it down. That doesn't mean we shouldn't bring forth our critique. We should always remain wary and skeptical. That much we have learned over the past few years. When we detect obvious bullshit we should call them out on it. But I have witnessed that in some cases people should really try to be a bit more openminded. Just because you can turn around every word twice over and detect some kind of potential thing to get upset about doesn't mean there actually us something to be upset about, and even if there is something to be upset about that doesn't necessarily mean you should get upset. [/Aynen] |
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Post by 13thGeneral on Jun 22, 2015 17:27:10 GMT
Well said.
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Post by speedio on Jun 22, 2015 17:33:43 GMT
Indeed. I have lost all faith that Godus will ever become a game I will want to play.
It has deviated so far from what it was advertised as during kickstarter that I see no way of them turning it around without a heavy rebuild. And I can't see them doing that simply because of cost and time.
When I buy early access I realize the risk I'm taking. and I'm more or less fine with the game going down the drain compared to what I expected. Considering it was Peter who was making it I assumed before I paid that he would promise more then he would deliver. He does have a bit of a reputation for it.
However, 22cans has left me with a feeling similar to being rammed from behind. I feel like they have deceived me and used money I gave them in good faith to turn a profit on a mobile game rather then a pc game.
This would not have been that bad if it had not affected the pc game so badly. I would not mind a mobile version of Godus if it had been developed separately from the pc game.
What would make me happy at this point is them giving out refunds. Admitting they screwed us over(PC platform), even if it was not their intention. And that they are honest with the status of development and their realistic plans for the future.
I Don't expect them to give refunds, but if they do the rest I'll go back to neutral and it would give me a little more faith in the company. Right now there is no trust.
Right now when they do dev updates it feels like they are doing pr to calm the storm rather then anything else.
I would love for 22cans staff to join in as many discussions as possible. I know I'll try not to hate on them but I can understand that being active in a place where people are so negative can be very hard.
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Lord Ba'al
Supreme Deity
Posts: 6,260
Pledge level: Half a Partner
I like: Cats; single malt Scotch; Stargate; Amiga; fried potatoes; retro gaming; cheese; snickers; sticky tape.
I don't like: Dimples in the bottom of scotch bottles; Facebook games masquerading as godgames.
Steam: stonelesscutter
GOG: stonelesscutter
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Jun 22, 2015 18:09:14 GMT
By the way, when I say these things I say them as a forum member, not as the forum admin. I won't be banning anyone for having a different opinion from mine.
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Post by hardly on Jun 22, 2015 20:36:52 GMT
I agree with what others have said. I appreciate the engagement and I want it to continue. Deep down I'm uneasy about the development direction, the lack of a plan and as the general said I'm pessanistic. I do wish these people Simon, moo, etc had been in charge from the start.
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Post by colin22cans on Jun 23, 2015 0:34:50 GMT
I do wish these people Simon, moo, etc had been in charge from the start. Oh..okay  |
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Post by hardly on Jun 23, 2015 2:19:49 GMT
I do wish these people Simon, moo, etc had been in charge from the start. Oh..okay Sorry you were rolled into the "etc" Colin, we love you too. I should have added "because it would have been a lot easier to fix the situation with an earlier intervention." I like the engagement that is happening but I fear the time when we have to reflect on progress made. |
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Post by militairensneuvelen on Jun 24, 2015 7:19:06 GMT
Priceless, the biggest con of them all asking for fair shakes. After all the lies and deception, he wants "FAIR SHAKES"  17,184 backers pledged £526,563 to help bring this project to life. <----Fair shake Criticism, questions, remarks on several forums. <----Fair shake You even asked for our help/input. <----Fair shakes You had all the Fair Shakes in the worls. How many "Fair Shakes" do you lying <beep> need huh? FYI - This PeterMolyneux is not THE Peter Molyneux  Especially if you look at his prior posts (Sorry if you knew that, but the way your post is written, you didn't). I agree with petermolyneux statement in a way, the new guys ( simon22cans, FuriousMoo, colin22cans) have been more open in comms and active on here and the more hostile steam forums, I'll reserve judgement on any future releases, but I'm hoping Simon can lead them to a much improved PC game experience (as is his stated goal). Personally I will wait for the combat build which Simon has actually been involved in to see what effect they have had. I think that is a "Fair Shake". /facedesk. That is pretty embarrassing... I'm terribly sorry. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2015 8:58:22 GMT
How to NOT PR:
Well, you change every 6 months, year, the guys in charge of that. So in the end, nobody understands what happens with PR. Quite simple... >_<
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Post by colin22cans on Jun 25, 2015 9:28:43 GMT
Odd wording Hopefully it wasn't meant to imply that we are a-ok with suicide bullying/death threats on this forum... I highly doubt Ba'al nor any of the regulars here would put up with that nonsense. Definitely odd wording from Psychonaut23 implying that Proboards is more tolerant of abuse & death threats. I'm not certain but I don't think death threats would be allowed here either. I'm not sure I know of a public forum that does allow them!  |
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Lord Ba'al
Supreme Deity
Posts: 6,260
Pledge level: Half a Partner
I like: Cats; single malt Scotch; Stargate; Amiga; fried potatoes; retro gaming; cheese; snickers; sticky tape.
I don't like: Dimples in the bottom of scotch bottles; Facebook games masquerading as godgames.
Steam: stonelesscutter
GOG: stonelesscutter
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Jun 25, 2015 10:36:30 GMT
We are tolerant, but there are lines.
Who is Midnight Bacon?
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Post by mrdrpink on Jun 25, 2015 10:38:23 GMT
We are tolerant, but there are lines. Who is Midnight Bacon? The mysterious Midnight Bacon? Could it be colin22cans? |
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Post by totallytim on Jun 25, 2015 10:38:47 GMT
Ow look another 22Cans staff member flexing his e-muscles. There was nothing wrong with the thread at hand. The other thread, which I never saw, might have crossed the line, but Aynen already took care of that by deleting it. Definitely odd wording from Psychonaut23 implying that Proboards is more tolerant of abuse & death threats... It also seems we found ourselves a joke[r]. |
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Post by colin22cans on Jun 25, 2015 10:45:07 GMT
Ow look another 22Cans staff member flexing his e-muscles. Nope. We do not tolerate death threats.  |
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Post by eddiemonsta on Jun 25, 2015 11:04:29 GMT
A pedant states that it isn't a threat per se, just a rather unpleasant request.
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Post by colin22cans on Jun 25, 2015 11:07:04 GMT
A pedant states that it isn't a threat per se, just a rather unpleasant request. And still unacceptable |
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Post by eddiemonsta on Jun 25, 2015 11:08:45 GMT
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Post by speedio on Jun 25, 2015 13:32:56 GMT
I would have banned that guy  |
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Post by eskaton23 on Jun 25, 2015 15:02:16 GMT
Ok I think I mentioned in another thread that I am Psychonaut23 on the steam fora. Lets get a few things straight here. I actually still have yet to read the thread where gizzoflyp suggested suicide. Having only read the thread fail of a company never should be in "early access" my intention was just to suggest:- 'gixxoflyp - you'd be better venting your spleen over on the proboards Godus boards...they are a little more tolerant of that sort of thing' venting spleen folks....no mention from me of Death, suicide or whatever else nor was any intended. I then go on to suggest that gizzoflyp could get his point over without resorting to severe nastiness. So Midnight Bacon locks the thread....there is a surprise. I feel a little misrepresented here but then I can also see how my words could be construed in the way they have been. I do spend quite some time in my role as a counsellor dealing with suicide, self harm and all the baggage associated so it galls a little to see my words interpreted in a way they were not meant to be. |
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) Just joking.
Especially if you look at his prior posts (Sorry if you knew that, but the way your post is written, you didn't). 
