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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 10:21:06 GMT
Jack's involvement would mean I would NOT back it. And i think that's part of the reason why we got this article - Jack's reputation has suffered from Godus. He was one of the "Faces" of Godus. Looks like an attempt to whitewash his reputation again. I mean Peter can go to retirement if the trail doesn't work, but Jack has a few more years to do. |
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Post by engarde on Apr 21, 2015 10:48:14 GMT
Whilst across the UK there are a number of local/community type papers, indeed one from my home town is called the 'insert hometown name here' Guardian, the paper here is national paper not a local paper, though I now find that until 1959 it was named a a local variant itself, The Guardian. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 11:06:11 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 11:13:32 GMT
I would be highly surprised if the documentary the backers are supposed to receive sometime soonus tm will include any significantly incriminating evidence. No doubt it will be scrubbed clean before being released to the community, if experience tells us anything, based on how they are running the steam forum. I think it will be a documentary about a successfull video game project and great team - which could have been much more successfull if there weren't a few ranting people who had seriously disturbed the development of godus without reason. Without them the game would have been much better.
Someone should ask 22cans who will do the rest of the documentary (making of) about Godus. Now with Jack leaving and 53% completion of the game.
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Post by Danjal on Apr 21, 2015 13:33:12 GMT
Jack comes off in a good light in that article. You can't really fault Jack for anything. He's never had much true influence to change things unless it was with Peters approval (if at all). For all intents and purposes, his job was to hold the mic and be another face to the community. The most you can truely blame him for is inexperience. Rather than incompetence. |
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Apr 21, 2015 15:11:11 GMT
Jack comes off in a good light in that article. You can't really fault Jack for anything. He's never had much true influence to change things unless it was with Peters approval (if at all). For all intents and purposes, his job was to hold the mic and be another face to the community. The most you can truely blame him for is inexperience. Rather than incompetence. I'm not blaming Jack for anything. |
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Post by mindless on Apr 21, 2015 17:24:59 GMT
I think it will be a documentary about a successfull video game project and great team I can not tell if your being serious here, or just sarcastic. which could have been much more successfull if there weren't a few ranting people who had seriously disturbed the development of godus without reason.
Which people are you referring too, name some names. As for the reasons, once we know who your talking about, then we can discuss which reasons of theirs you feel are invalid. Without them the game would have been much better. So your saying that the devs have been effected by the negative feedback? Do you give them so little credability that they are no longer able to continue to perform their jobs in a professional manner after receiving criticism? If their performance can be effected to such an extent as you seam to imply from simple feedback, then maybe they have no right to call themselves developers in the first place. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 17:38:50 GMT
I think it will be a documentary about a successfull video game project and great team I can not tell if your being serious here, or just sarcastic. which could have been much more successfull if there weren't a few ranting people who had seriously disturbed the development of godus without reason.
Which people are you referring too, name some names. As for the reasons, once we know who your talking about, then we can discuss which reasons of theirs you feel are invalid. Without them the game would have been much better. So your saying that the devs have been effected by the negative feedback? Do you give them so little credability that they are no longer able to continue to perform their jobs in a professional manner after receiving criticism? If their performance can be effected to such an extent as you seam to imply from simple feedback, then maybe they have no right to call themselves developers in the first place. Seems like you are not one of the "alpha" backers or you would have known how i meant it.  1. No i am not sarcastic but that doesn't mean that i think it was a successful video game project. I think thats what the documentary will say. 2. I refer to us and especially to alpha version backers like me. 3. No, i don't say that but i am pretty sure that it will look like that in the documentary - a ranting mob not understanding the way modern computer games are made and not able to see the vision behind the game (even with thousands of informative video updates and an unbelievable level of communication and developers hiding behind special secure doors not able to concentrate on their work because of the ranting horde in front of those doors. Not to forget the press, pushing Peter Molyneux out of video game business. Maybe you understand how i meant it, now. |
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Post by Crumpy Six on Apr 21, 2015 17:48:09 GMT
Yeah, I'm really not interested in any documentary that has actually been approved for release by the 22Cans PR team. It'll be more of the same sanitised, misleading crap we've all become accustomed to. I'd be far more interested in one of the former employees writing some kind of exposé on their experiences at the studio.
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Post by mindless on Apr 21, 2015 18:28:58 GMT
@sundance, thanks for clearing that up, I now understand what your saying. If there isn't at least one part in this documentary where PM plays the victim, I would be very surprised. Will also be interesting to see if they include any of Bryan's visit (assuming that was even recorded) Even now after all this time we still have no idea if they have yet got in contact with him and/or come to some arrangement regarding his prize.
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Apr 21, 2015 18:42:32 GMT
I think it will be a documentary about a successfull video game project and great team I can not tell if your being serious here, or just sarcastic. which could have been much more successfull if there weren't a few ranting people who had seriously disturbed the development of godus without reason.
Which people are you referring too, name some names. As for the reasons, once we know who your talking about, then we can discuss which reasons of theirs you feel are invalid. Without them the game would have been much better. So your saying that the devs have been effected by the negative feedback? Do you give them so little credability that they are no longer able to continue to perform their jobs in a professional manner after receiving criticism? If their performance can be effected to such an extent as you seam to imply from simple feedback, then maybe they have no right to call themselves developers in the first place. Lol! @sundance is a fanboi!  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 20:08:58 GMT
So now it remains to be seen how much of a 'Crispin Horsefry' Jack really was for Goad Us' documentary, and how much incriminating evidence he's detailed will be kept.
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Post by Crumpy Six on Apr 22, 2015 7:43:48 GMT
Quite a few more articles have popped up about this, but they're all sourced from the original Guardian piece. As far as I can tell, The Guardian remains the only mainstream national paper to have deemed this newsworthy. The other articles are all on game sites.
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Post by heggers on Apr 22, 2015 7:52:32 GMT
I do wonder why the Guardian considered this news worthy (granted its only on their website and probably not in their national paper). Did they write an article about all shitstorm? I can't remember
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2015 9:47:28 GMT
I do wonder why the Guardian considered this news worthy (granted its only on their website and probably not in their national paper). Did they write an article about all shitstorm? I can't remember Yup, they did the piece in which Peter said that he was done talking with the press...right before talking with the press some more. He also made another upcoming deadline (or two, if you count the second anniversary for Bryan Henderson's "prize") in the article this thread is about: godus.boards.net/thread/891/new-deadline |
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Post by heggers on Apr 22, 2015 11:12:56 GMT
I do wonder why the Guardian considered this news worthy (granted its only on their website and probably not in their national paper). Did they write an article about all shitstorm? I can't remember Yup, they did the piece in which Peter said that he was done talking with the press...right before talking with the press some more. He also made another upcoming deadline (or two, if you count the second anniversary for Bryan Henderson's "prize") in the article this thread is about: godus.boards.net/thread/891/new-deadlineAh! Still feel they should have included all the others at 22Cons who have jumped ship this year as well. No smoke without fire after all |
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Post by Qetesh on Apr 22, 2015 17:10:36 GMT
I met him in person. He was a nice guy. I have no ill words for Jack. I hope he finds a great new project.
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Apr 22, 2015 18:32:07 GMT
I met him in person. He was a nice guy. I have no ill words for Jack. I hope he finds a great new project. Apparently he's starting his own business. |
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Post by earlparvisjam on Apr 23, 2015 3:34:05 GMT
Well, if you want to know what the documentary's going to look like, here's a first blush: From Develop ConferenceAs for Jack leaving, I've nothing positive to say so I think I'll just leave it at that... |
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Post by mindless on Apr 23, 2015 5:59:05 GMT
Well, if you want to know what the documentary's going to look like, here's a first blush: From Develop ConferenceAs for Jack leaving, I've nothing positive to say so I think I'll just leave it at that... That trailer was pretty awesome. Jack certainly has got skills, his editing makes this look like its a blockbuster movie coming soon to a theatre near you. It almost feels like history repeating in some way. The events and situation remind me of something very similar, This feels like it could be the game industry equivalent of Terry Gilliams Documentary: Lost in La Mancha, where no matter what they tried, due to both events inside and outside of their control, Terrys efforts to film The Man Who Killed Don Quixote just could not produce the film, and he eventually conceded defeat, giving up on completing the film. The parallels are almost uncanny. He was however able to at least chart his doomed journey with a documentary that he was able to create from partial film footage, and the work of the documentary crew that were running alongside the original production. While the project as a whole was a failure there was still something to be salvaged with the release of the documentary. I wonder if Jacks documentary will achieve the same effect for Godus? p.s. look at that, it's my 100th post, I was but a learner, now I am the Master! |
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