General Godus discussion

Probably tomorrow?

Hey Spiderweb

What was your question? I'll speak to Konrad today! 

Hey colin22cans and simon22cans, weird less game oriented question for you guys...What drew you into 22cans? That's...Honestly the nicest way I could think to put that, because I can't imagine you walked into it with the perspective we've been viewing it from. Were you guys sold on the studio's overall talent, and/or was it to do with its developing projects? Also, what was the reputation of it you were familiar with before looking more into it?

Sorry if you've both answered these questions somewhere else that I've overlooked, but thought it might be a few interesting questions you could answer, since the rest is essentially secret or developing (if not both).

If you think that grasp for *anything* favourable was a bit bonkers, check out this:

steamcommunity.com/app/232810/discussions/0/530645446309974906/#c530645446325990244

"In terms of involving the community, I personally think its a great idea if it can be completely constructive and managed effectively by us as to not get swamped and let people down with feedback (or lack thereof). I think it would be really cool to have some of the design decisions that might be coming up put into some sort of direction voting system where the community can choose between various options to help shape those decisions. Perhaps after every hour of game play a vote about various parts of that experience? This allows us to be realistic about what can be done with resources and time and get answers to actual questions we have. Of course, this is just a thought at this time, but it could work quite well, I think.



With combat, we want to make sure that we have a something that is good step towards a fully interactive feature before releasing to opt-in. A lot of systems have been changed, such as the path finding and lots of new features added with new warbands, AI sculpting and so on that it requires quite a chunk of implementation before its properly playable and we can start to receive decent feedback (rather than lots of 'it's broken' or known cases). Hopefully it won't be too long."

I'm sorry, with the number of people who have offered - in depth - why there are rightful grievances for PC users being delivered what turned into a free2play game otherwise...how the hell does this even remotely begin to be a question?  From a production standpoint, it looks like gold bricking on a studio level.

Analysing hourly gameplay impressions...really?

Just like with the Community Competition a bit ago...who is going to show off what IS the pony's one trick when they have to slug through the rest of the game?  How are you going to get hourly impressions from a game everyone was put off from playing long ago?  This also assumes that X person's hour 10 is the same as Y person's hour 10, or a number of other problems.  

People are expressing the issues with the game in-depth and quite constructively if expressing negativity about the game...but let's make a poll in a game nobody wants to really play because it reminds them of how badly they got screwed by 22cans.  I'm not sure what I can say about that kind of responsive strategy that would be eligible for print in most newspapers.

Oh...right.  There are impressions much more favourable from those who play the game for free, not the traditionally marginalised who paid $20 for something but instead received a port of a free2play title with cheats/debug/edit modes included.

Which if we go by what 22cans have actually said about actual PC-based content aside from dev builds, would seem to indicate that PC users mean almost nothing to them, but hey...that's what you get as a risk from Early Access, riiight guys?  Switching your PC game out for a free2play title just ACCIDENTALLY happens as a risk in game development.  Totally.  *sad trombone*

I've got a better poll - which one better suits 22cans:

Well, there you go...taking away the only thing that might remotely look as if this game had anything like a healthy community relationship...despite having to mince statistics to acquire that little shred of hope in the first place.

Was this one of 22cans' current PR objectives?

So I should keep my game installed and running in the background to increase my chance of being heard, while I artificially increase the average playtime of their game and completely abolish any chances to ever receive a refund from Steam?

At the same time, people who somehow enjoy these kinds of games should have a bigger say than people who funded the game?

Wow.

I understand where you're coming from, and I was too at first. Some news is better than nothing, but then I realised they just put combat into a minigame. Sure, combat would be something to look forward for from my pov aswell, if they had any intentions to build upon it like you suggested in a post some weeks ago. But considering their past and tendency to gold paint bricks (© 2015 mandrake), I don't see that happening. The currently described iteration of combat fits just too well with their mobile orientation and has similarities to other mobile titles. Even simon was surprised by the idea of disrupting the zen nature of homeworld, so I'm not exactly optimistic.

Of course 22cans could come out of their golden brick fort and plainly explain how they plan to make Godus a PC game and not a simple mobile port by keeping combat split from the rest of the game, but I don't believe in miracles.

The way I understood the description of how Combat will be implemented, how I interpreted it, was that they were relegating it to a separate map world, was a temporarily separation in an effort to isolate it from the currently flimsy homeworld and wonky weyworld, in order to better test it and make meaningful changes. Granted they didn't really go into much more details about their reasoning, or settle our suspicions that it was another cheap implementation, but we won't know for certain until that shoe actually drops; whenever the hell that will be (what's it been now, the time period they've been working on combat, six months??).
I'm not going to keep "dooming and glooming" over this, even though I certainly have reason to, because it will eventually bare itself evident in due time.

Mandrake, can you do me a favor?