General Godus discussion

Then why not make it clear? They've been pretty much avoiding the subject as much as they possibly could. And after Collins PR statement, about how 28 likes somehow accurately represent the the communities stance about Godus, hit the bullshit fan, the whole thread just got locked.

As far as I'm concerned, silence can can be a pretty revealing answer to some questions. Specially in 22cans case.

I'm pretty sure they offered to unban everyone involved if they sent them a message, no?

Only half of the problem, I'm afraid. Plus, I do believe we were messaging them quite well enough here in the topic devoted to that.

I also see that, despite previous warnings, 22cans went back for Streisand Effect.

While the Daily Dev Updates were usually locked, so as better to try and ignore history and any real community interaction on a day-to-day basis, the recent dev updates have not been locked:

Combat Design Progress Update - June 19th
steamcommunity.com/app/232810/discussions/0/598198356191975926/

Combat Art Progress Update - June 12th
steamcommunity.com/app/232810/discussions/0/598198356164456164/


So, colin22cans, what's up?

Thank you, totallytim.

I wouldn't really call it progress. Locking the thread was a very dumb PR move in the first place. Anyone could see that.

But if they have no intention of replying, then everything else is and was pretty much pointless.

At this point, it appears that Peter and others in ownership of 22cans picked new staff that best suited their downward-spiraling careers (while taking others with them, no wonder they were targeting the naive for hiring), not people who the company requires to bring it back on-track to again acquire a reputation able to be described and not immediately followed up by laughter or ire.

It is difficult to consider the new management of 22cans interested in fixing much when they dodge actual discussion of those problems, and only after having been hounded does the least bit seem to be achieved outside of The New Update Show.

So much for that "reboot".

I suppose 22Cans' management had a talk and decided it would be better to spend the next few months whitewashing/downplaying the Godus situation while transitioning fully into mobile company, with Simon being brought in for his mobile experience and Colin brought in to put a new face on PR. Simon's deflection all questions regarding 22Cans' past development of Godus, 22Cans' ability to issue refunds, and his false pretensions at accepting player feedback tell us all we need to know about this new direction, as does Colin's feigned obtuseness, intellectual dishonesty, and failed censorship when confronted with facts and questions that are apparently too inconvenient for him to address honestly.



Which are along the lines of "F--- you, F--- you, and shove a c--- up your d---ed a--es !" If someone has a litany of quotes, incidents, and documented evidence to demonstrate that a member of 22Cans' management or PR team is a "liar" or a "con", then it has been perfectly fine to label said members as such on this board so far. In that context, and since we have similar materials to back up similar descriptions of our new friends at 22Cans, I see no reason why referring to Simon and Colin as a "corporate hack" and "PR gofer" is in any way a "personal attack". Cheers.

Edit: And before anyone starts rehashing the "What about 22Can's point of view?" argument again, I'd like to make clear that what little they've given us of it shows an absolute lack of devotion to good faith engagement with the community.

It was heading in that direction. Just a preventative statement.

*looks at his Bullshit Bingo card*

I still have "The Mythical Man-Month Excuse" box unchecked - I haven't seen it myself, but it would be along the same line.

Can't afford multiple sprint teams...uh, what about what Raspofabs was working upon while the rest of those developing on Godus were doing something else? A sprint is to the exclusion of anything else? That excuse makes it sound like 22cans' execution of Agile to be more paralysing of development than helping, suggesting (as per a remark on the Steam forum) that it is merely being used for buzz-word value only.




Not much word else given involving company policy about that other than passing the buck - much like their response towards anything else that might be considered important to this title and company, but this "reboot" has been flaccid and unimpressive.

There are a number of threads on Steam about this very topic - what is wrong with the game.

A lot of them have a noticeable lack of 22cans involvement while otherwise there are suggestions that we try surveying what we already know.

It would be like an emergency crew arriving on-scene to someone under a car and having to vote upon what happened. That is how paralysed 22cans' "Agile" looks, especially when a "sprint" is a marathon of an under-staffed and under-experienced team of revolving employment as most of the studio were moved to another game.

Still nothing really substantial for the Kickstarter backers - those who funded it for Linux don't even really get a game unless they have an Android app player.

Still nothing for those who were sold a PC game so they could instead serve as testers for a mobile F2P title.

Still no word on the work of the fellow who begged to be working upon Godus again so that he could contribute as much as possible.

Still no word on Bryan Henderson - therefore no word on the entire fucking point of Godus.

Still no word on pretty much anything but the sparkly of Combat waved so hard in front of people's faces they probably could be tried for assault.

Still nothing to really suggest that this is indeed a "reboot" while looking more like assuming everyone should grant a free "do-over".

If people were able to see that their feedback was valued a little more than a numerical tally then I am sure they would a little less pessimistic and cynical about what can be expected from 22cans.

It really does look like a PR puppet show at this point.