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June 2015 Combat Update Jul 1, 2015 20:38:32 GMT

Post by morsealworth on Jul 1, 2015 20:38:32 GMT

Jun 28, 2015 16:57:59 GMT 13thGeneral said:

The stuff in the recent dev updates are pretty interesting and look great, but unfortunately it's just not enough to overcome the fog that has grown over the community these last few years.

Not that. It's not enough to make the game at least somewhat close to the game we were promised and entered a legally binding contract for. That's all it is, and that's what really matters.

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militairensneuvelen Master Posts: 127 Pledge level: Steam Purchase = 0 Pledged	June 2015 Combat Update Jul 2, 2015 5:40:33 GMT morsealworth likes this Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by militairensneuvelen on Jul 2, 2015 5:40:33 GMT I think there should be no (player) controlled combat at all. I want a god game, not a half baked strategy or tactical game...

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June 2015 Combat Update Jul 2, 2015 11:31:34 GMT Lord Ba'al and morsealworth like this

Post by 13thGeneral on Jul 2, 2015 11:31:34 GMT

Jul 2, 2015 5:40:33 GMT militairensneuvelen said:

I think there should be no (player) controlled combat at all.
I want a god game, not a half baked strategy or tactical game...

Based on the early, early, concept prototype I assumed most of combat would be AI and the player would use god powers to aid in the fight.
I thought it looked cool how organic the settlements spread out and reacted when meeting another culture.
But I understand the need for a little more control, I just am not sure that the RTS method is the right choice. However, at this stage, it's better than nothing.

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morsealworth Young God Posts: 1,286 Pledge level: Benefactor	June 2015 Combat Update Jul 2, 2015 12:08:21 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by morsealworth on Jul 2, 2015 12:08:21 GMT Jul 2, 2015 11:31:34 GMT 13thGeneral said: I just am not sure that the RTS method is the right choice. However, at this stage, it's better than nothing. I am sure that this approach was used in B&W2. And failed miserably.
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June 2015 Combat Update Jul 2, 2015 12:48:54 GMT via mobile

Post by 13thGeneral on Jul 2, 2015 12:48:54 GMT

Jul 2, 2015 12:08:21 GMT morsealworth said:

Jul 2, 2015 11:31:34 GMT 13thGeneral said:

I just am not sure that the RTS method is the right choice. However, at this stage, it's better than nothing.

I am sure that this approach was used in B&W2. And failed miserably.

Ah, interesting. Sadly I never played any of the B&W series, so I lack frame of reference. Although I have played many other RTS games and understand how the unit troop management usually works - often not as well as one would hope. Apparently getting large unit AI combat to function well is very tricky (as anyone can imagine it would).

What didn't work well in B&W's handling of unit combat? How does that parallel or compare with what they're doing with Godus?

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June 2015 Combat Update Jul 2, 2015 14:25:48 GMT via mobile 13thGeneral likes this

Post by Lord Ba'al on Jul 2, 2015 14:25:48 GMT

I think while developing AI combat pitting two AI's against each other might be a good way too see how it handles itself. Especially if they are given the exact same starting conditions. Then once the system seems well developed test it against a human opponent to see how it holds up.

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