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Post by morsealworth on Jan 30, 2016 4:57:58 GMT
I believe in that instance, Churchill was using it as V for victory, rather than the more common (in the UK) pejorative usage. I always thought that two fingers like that with the back of the hand is FU two fingers like that palm to you was V for Victory. But I am American so do not know for sure. Well, modernly, it is. But Winston Churchill personally used that gesture to signify victory palm to away from (only noticed the typo a day after) the audience. And at his time, the gesture wasn't as common.
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Post by eddiemonsta on Jan 30, 2016 7:23:03 GMT
I always thought that two fingers like that with the back of the hand is FU two fingers like that palm to you was V for Victory. But I am American so do not know for sure. Well, modernly, it is. But Winston Churchill personally used that gesture to signify victory palm to the audience. And at his time, the gesture wasn't as common. Aye. Churchill used both gestures as the V. Apparently the pejorative usage dates back to medieval times when the french would chop those two fingers off captured enemy soldiers so as to render them unable to use a bow. Before battles, te english would wave those same two fingers at the french as an act of defiance. At least, that's the explanation i saw on TV somewhere. I think it was Stephen Fry on the show QI. Anyway, I digress. Would anybody actually be surprised if these tweets by PM from PM's account turned out to be true? I don't see how 22cans can believe any good will come from this 3rd sustained period of silence. It's like they never learned a thing despite all the words to the contrary.
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Post by morsealworth on Jan 30, 2016 7:28:27 GMT
Well, modernly, it is. But Winston Churchill personally used that gesture to signify victory palm to the audience. And at his time, the gesture wasn't as common. Aye. Churchill used both gestures as the V. Apparently the pejorative usage dates back to medieval times when the french would chop those two fingers off captured enemy soldiers so as to render them unable to use a bow. Before battles, te english would wave those same two fingers at the french as an act of defiance. At least, that's the explanation i saw on TV somewhere. I think it was Stephen Fry on the show QI. Yes, that was the apparent reason though the turn of "defiance" into both "victory" and <expletive> are a very difficult topic, as with all kinds of language.
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Post by earlparvisjam on Jan 30, 2016 8:04:38 GMT
So, I tried looking at the Steam forum and am getting an error. Anyone else getting the same?
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Post by hardly on Jan 30, 2016 8:09:27 GMT
So, I tried looking at the Steam forum and am getting an error. Anyone else getting the same? Yeah been that way for a couple of hours. I presume it's not GODUS specific.
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Post by earlparvisjam on Jan 30, 2016 8:24:44 GMT
Well, since Elite Dangerous has been down for hours too, I'm wondering if there's a connection. Looks like it's the entire Forum setup.
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Post by militairensneuvelen on Jan 30, 2016 8:54:43 GMT
I can reach other games on the Steam forums without issues (GTAV, Call to Arms, StoneHearth....no issues)
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Post by gillburt on Jan 30, 2016 10:18:49 GMT
I can reach other games on the Steam forums without issues (GTAV, Call to Arms, StoneHearth....no issues) Stonehearth down for me....along with all other forums for the c.20 steamed games I own.
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Post by hardly on Feb 1, 2016 8:12:51 GMT
I'm just going to add this here. Has anyone watched this video? It came up in google search as "within the last week" although it is clearly old. I've seen versions of it but not this version. It shouts betrayal on so many levels. I particularly like how it repeats lies we know aren't going to happen like "Jupiter" which given where we are it is just false advertising. I'd never seen a trailer with an ipad in it or Peter's dirty finger. Such an obvious mobile play. www.22cans.com/new-godus-trailer/Shame on you 22Cans, take your false advertising down until you actually implement the features you claim to be developing.
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Post by Mandrake on Feb 1, 2016 10:30:39 GMT
The URL of the video suggests it was made, posted, and soon forgotten sometime in 2014 - sort of like another relic - the roadmap. Those new to 22cans, even if they have been around a while but only spoke up after the employee departures made it necessary, may be asking - "WTF is roadmap?!" Here it is: www.22cans.com/godus-roadmap-where-are-we-headed/How the hell did they start with this plan and end up at the current shitpile? This is hardly "overpromising" at all - this is charting out for polar bears and ending up with penguins. The roadmap - along with the "trailer" have linked - will be a number of items among display of this museum exhibit of industry fail, and not as any of the good parts, but rather as evidence of how development went wrong.
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Feb 1, 2016 21:23:07 GMT
I'm just going to add this here. Has anyone watched this video? It came up in google search as "within the last week" although it is clearly old. I've seen versions of it but not this version. It shouts betrayal on so many levels. I particularly like how it repeats lies we know aren't going to happen like "Jupiter" which given where we are it is just false advertising. I'd never seen a trailer with an ipad in it or Peter's dirty finger. Such an obvious mobile play. www.22cans.com/new-godus-trailer/Shame on you 22Cans, take your false advertising down until you actually implement the features you claim to be developing. OMG the trailer!
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Post by hardly on Feb 2, 2016 7:15:37 GMT
I'm just going to add this here. Has anyone watched this video? It came up in google search as "within the last week" although it is clearly old. I've seen versions of it but not this version. It shouts betrayal on so many levels. I particularly like how it repeats lies we know aren't going to happen like "Jupiter" which given where we are it is just false advertising. I'd never seen a trailer with an ipad in it or Peter's dirty finger. Such an obvious mobile play. www.22cans.com/new-godus-trailer/Shame on you 22Cans, take your false advertising down until you actually implement the features you claim to be developing. OMG the trailer! I don't understand why they haven't taken this down. Surely their PR guy (yes colin22cans I'm referring to you) who doesn't seem to do any of the usual PR activities like release statements on the game could spare some time to amend their promotional material and pull it into line with what they are actually doing. Leaving out artefacts that advertise out of date promises that they have no intention of meeting is just begging for allegations of false advertising.
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Post by vv on Feb 2, 2016 13:58:03 GMT
OMG the trailer! I don't understand why they haven't taken this down. Surely their PR guy (yes colin22cans I'm referring to you) who doesn't seem to do any of the usual PR activities like release statements on the game could spare some time to amend their promotional material and pull it into line with what they are actually doing. Leaving out artefacts that advertise out of date promises that they have no intention of meeting is just begging for allegations of false advertising. Colin is currently busy doing PR activities like press releases in china. It's on his linked in profile and I think it's been stated in some interviews etc etc as well. Colin and china are best buddys at the moment.
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Post by 13thGeneral on Feb 2, 2016 23:38:51 GMT
I don't understand why they haven't taken this down. Surely their PR guy (yes colin22cans I'm referring to you) who doesn't seem to do any of the usual PR activities like release statements on the game could spare some time to amend their promotional material and pull it into line with what they are actually doing. Leaving out artefacts that advertise out of date promises that they have no intention of meeting is just begging for allegations of false advertising. Colin is currently busy doing PR activities like press releases in china. It's on his linked in profile and I think it's been stated in some interviews etc etc as well. Colin and china are best buddys at the moment. Don't forget also monitoring Peter's Twitter profile for haxxors, and putting out statements rebutting anything said haxxors perpetrated. That takes up, like, whole hours of a day!
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