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Post by hardly on May 24, 2014 4:23:41 GMT
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Lord Ba'al
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I like: Cats; single malt Scotch; Stargate; Amiga; fried potatoes; retro gaming; cheese; snickers; sticky tape.
I don't like: Dimples in the bottom of scotch bottles; Facebook games masquerading as godgames.
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Post by Lord Ba'al on May 24, 2014 4:30:37 GMT
Don't you mean Rock Paper Shotgun?  |
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Post by hardly on May 24, 2014 4:32:59 GMT
Oops I broke that. Ok I'll try again:
About DeNA: "They have no creative control over Godus whatsoever. They have no intellectual charge over 22Cans. They have no investment in 22Cans. This is purely a segmented deal for the iOS and Android versions only." I guess based on George's comments they changed their stance on having an investment.
Here he says that backers will get a free mobile copy: "Mobile players are going to get their digital copy. They’ve already paid for that digital copy. Whatever our decision, we will give value to that digital copy. We would be crazy not to do that, to recognize that." My interpretation of this quote is that he wont sell it for free otherwise backers copies would have no value.
Here he says pricing will be more of a kickstarter decision "We’re going to collect those together and it’s going to be more of a Kickstarter decision than it is one particular person like myself making the decision." Was anyone consulted on PC/Mobile pricing?
Its funny he says at one point: "If I said to people today, if I said the words “free-to-play,” everyone would throw stones at me." Who knew Peter was a prophet, he made a free to play game and we threw stones at him. It takes a truly special individual to know what your backers don't want and ignore it and produce it anyway and then pretend to be surprised at the result.
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Post by hardly on May 24, 2014 4:33:36 GMT
Don't you mean Rock Paper Shotgun? Yeah I was so focused on getting scissors spelt right I never stopped to think. |
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Lord Ba'al
Supreme Deity
Posts: 6,260
Pledge level: Half a Partner
I like: Cats; single malt Scotch; Stargate; Amiga; fried potatoes; retro gaming; cheese; snickers; sticky tape.
I don't like: Dimples in the bottom of scotch bottles; Facebook games masquerading as godgames.
Steam: stonelesscutter
GOG: stonelesscutter
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Post by Lord Ba'al on May 24, 2014 4:36:08 GMT
Don't you mean Rock Paper Shotgun? Yeah I was so focused on getting scissors spelt right I never stopped to think. Do you want me to fix it for you or do you think you could handle it yourself?  |
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Post by hardly on May 24, 2014 4:59:37 GMT
How about this one: www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/Android/Godus/news.asp?c=57324"He says he's come up with an entirely new way to get your cash in upcoming strategy opus Godus, and it will apparently be "delightful"." He compares the current library of free-to-play mobile games to "taking a huge hammer and smashing our customers with it. We're saying: 'Be patient or pay money.' That's not a delightful mechanic. That's not going to get people to invest their money." "Instead, there'll be monetisation in Godus "that hasn't existed before". And it will be as "fresh and as new and as different from anything you've ever seen in any game", he adds, in one of his now-typical promise-the-moon sales pitches." Here is an untruth: ""You've got to be subtle about it and slowly layer in those mechanics. The point we introduce monetisation depends on the player, and the game maker has to get you into the right mindset."" They've introduce monetisation at the same time for every player. Oh and my favourite: ""Yeah, I'm worried about that, but those risks are worth taking," Molyneux says. "We could layer in 'it takes six days to build this house', and maybe we'd make a shitload of money, but that's not my ambition for games."" I guess they literally decided to go for the "it takes six days to build this house." Are we sure we aren't part of some experiment. This man must be trolling us. |
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Post by hardly on May 24, 2014 5:32:08 GMT
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Post by banned on May 24, 2014 15:02:43 GMT
Oops I broke that. Ok I'll try again: About DeNA: "They have no creative control over Godus whatsoever. They have no intellectual charge over 22Cans. They have no investment in 22Cans. This is purely a segmented deal for the iOS and Android versions only." I guess based on George's comments they changed their stance on having an investment. Here he says that backers will get a free mobile copy: "Mobile players are going to get their digital copy. They’ve already paid for that digital copy. Whatever our decision, we will give value to that digital copy. We would be crazy not to do that, to recognize that." My interpretation of this quote is that he wont sell it for free otherwise backers copies would have no value. Here he says pricing will be more of a kickstarter decision "We’re going to collect those together and it’s going to be more of a Kickstarter decision than it is one particular person like myself making the decision." Was anyone consulted on PC/Mobile pricing? Its funny he says at one point: "If I said to people today, if I said the words “free-to-play,” everyone would throw stones at me." Who knew Peter was a prophet, he made a free to play game and we threw stones at him. It takes a truly special individual to know what your backers don't want and ignore it and produce it anyway and then pretend to be surprised at the result. 1: "About DeNA:" or the no KS/EA money is a lie. Which is more likely IMO given track record. 2: "backers will get a free mobile copy" as all mobile shall be free they likely shall credit a bunch of gems and pretend that makes everything fine. Of course I got a five on that being how they handle the PC as well, so... 3: "pricing" we were asked what we thought the game would sell for, but that was before the gem shop was shown so, another "pretend to give them a say!" 4: "throw stones" am throwing as often as possible. I have no stones but am a primate so, uhm, ... |
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Post by banned on May 24, 2014 15:03:48 GMT
"never stopped to think." just like 22cans! (see, perfect arc and a hit, with a splat!) |
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Post by waiting on conway on May 25, 2014 10:58:33 GMT
“Lionhead grew to like 300 people. We just forgot who we were.”
22cans may have mastered the art of self awareness, but they insist on stroking the hair of a stillborn child.
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Post by Monkeythumbz on Jun 4, 2014 14:40:32 GMT
About DeNA: "They have no creative control over Godus whatsoever. They have no intellectual charge over 22Cans. They have no investment in 22Cans. This is purely a segmented deal for the iOS and Android versions only." I guess based on George's comments they changed their stance on having an investment. I really can't comment on the rest, but investment in Godus does not equal investment in the studio. One is a project, the other is a company. |
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Post by Tau on Jun 7, 2014 21:31:28 GMT
About DeNA: "They have no creative control over Godus whatsoever. They have no intellectual charge over 22Cans. They have no investment in 22Cans. This is purely a segmented deal for the iOS and Android versions only." I guess based on George's comments they changed their stance on having an investment. I really can't comment on the rest, but investment in Godus does not equal investment in the studio. One is a project, the other is a company. Given your nitpicking, the original sentence: "They have no creative control over Godus whatsoever. They have no intellectual charge over 22Cans. They have no investment in 22Cans." actually means: "They have creative control over 22Cans. They have intellectual charge over Godus. They have investment in Godus." |
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Post by banned on Jun 10, 2014 0:26:34 GMT
I really can't comment on the rest, but investment in Godus does not equal investment in the studio. One is a project, the other is a company. Given your nitpicking, the original sentence: "They have no creative control over Godus whatsoever. They have no intellectual charge over 22Cans. They have no investment in 22Cans." actually means: "They have creative control over 22Cans. They have intellectual charge over Godus. They have investment in Godus." double speak m'r double edged. |
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