Lord Ba'al
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Jan 11, 2015 21:23:13 GMT
I dunno. A lot of dog owners appear to just leave it there judging from the vast amounts of piles I have to dodge on my way to work. Though I did witness someone today using a plastic bag to scoop it up after their dog took a shit. (on the pavement of course)
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Post by morsealworth on Jan 11, 2015 21:39:59 GMT
But isn't that illegal in UK?
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Post by Qetesh on Jan 11, 2015 21:40:11 GMT
I have noticed no difference from how it is in USA from my perspective. Dogs are not machines and sometimes they just let loose where they feel. Any dog owner in any country should pick up after,(I used to be one and I did it but knew some that did not) but sadly not all do. I have had to skirt dog poohey in every country I have been in, and sadly humans by nature are somewhat lazy and adverse to picking up their bundles of joy's presents of number two. I don't love doing the litterbox either but as they say, shit happens.
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Post by Qetesh on Jan 11, 2015 21:42:23 GMT
But isn't that illegal in UK? It is in USA too, so is many things, but if you don't get caught does that matter anywhere?
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Post by morsealworth on Jan 11, 2015 21:45:09 GMT
Well, it isn't even controlled in Russia, so this matter of clean streets always was an object of envy for me. But I guess, the human animal nature is unaffected by law enforcement.
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Post by Qetesh on Jan 11, 2015 21:58:25 GMT
Well, it isn't even controlled in Russia, so this matter of clean streets always was an object of envy for me. But I guess, the human animal nature is unaffected by law enforcement. Some are afraid of fines but many don't care and/or know where they can get away it, add that to cops not wanting to be "pooh police" and deal with BS (pun intended) paperwork and I don't really know how much that matters. It's like helmet laws, most feel it will work itself out by wedding out the stupid ones naturally. Long and short if you see a cop, pick up the pooh or you deserve to land in the dog house. I personally feel our cops have other important things like drive-by shootings, rape and looting to deal with than being pooh police or smoking cops, but I also feel it is damn inconsiderate not to pick up after Fido. I had a 40 plus pound dog, so I really could not have lived with letting it lie, so to speak.
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Post by morsealworth on Jan 11, 2015 22:30:56 GMT
most feel it will work itself out by wedding out the stupid ones naturally. Type on google the words "Russian dashcam video" and see a proof that natural selection doesn't help this time. I personally feel our cops have other important things like drive-by shootings, rape and looting to deal with than being pooh police or smoking cops. Well, smoking does kill even more people than violent crime though. Or do you have drive-by shootings and rape THAT often? Yes, I'm talking as a man from a country who had Chikatilo. He was a good father and husband, by the way. The sourse on Wikipedia is english-only, and therefore, unreliable.
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Post by Qetesh on Jan 11, 2015 23:03:12 GMT
Sadly, that was supposed to just be ironic and somewhat funny. My fail.
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Post by Qetesh on Jan 11, 2015 23:08:19 GMT
most feel it will work itself out by wedding out the stupid ones naturally. Type on google the words "Russian dashcam video" and see a proof that natural selection doesn't help this time. I personally feel our cops have other important things like drive-by shootings, rape and looting to deal with than being pooh police or smoking cops. Well, smoking does kill even more people than violent crime though. Or do you have drive-by shootings and rape THAT often? Yes, I'm talking as a man from a country who had Chikatilo. He was a good father and husband, by the way. The sourse on Wikipedia is english-only, and therefore, unreliable. It's not a contest, but I would rather take my chances with some cancer stix than walk down certain streets in Philly or most major US cities at certain times of day and yes according to my friend that was a Wilmington city cop for years, there so many more than people realize. I LOVE being in Belfast and feel so much safer here. www.newsweek.com/2014/12/19/wilmington-delaware-murder-crime-290232.htmlI used live about a half hour from Wilmington.
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Post by morsealworth on Jan 11, 2015 23:17:14 GMT
Which also shows that the job of police isn't the main part. I recently read an article that claimed that black people didn't progress and it was whites who finally stopped their oppression. Bullshit! The biggest progress to compare with first days after the end of slavery aren't on the political side. They lie within education. Even now there are so-called black brothers who grow up surrounded by crime and get used to it so much they can't do anything else. I's much more about social categories than races, and the difference between Detroit and Belfast also lies not in the size of police force, but in the type and level of education and civil services.
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Lord Ba'al
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Posts: 6,260
Pledge level: Half a Partner
I like: Cats; single malt Scotch; Stargate; Amiga; fried potatoes; retro gaming; cheese; snickers; sticky tape.
I don't like: Dimples in the bottom of scotch bottles; Facebook games masquerading as godgames.
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Jan 11, 2015 23:35:22 GMT
What a backward people those ruskies.
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Post by morsealworth on Jan 11, 2015 23:36:30 GMT
Oh. I'm sorry, I think my schizophrenia is acting up again. Now that I look at it I was overly serious (and off-topic) for a casual conversation and it may have been weird or even frightening for you. I guess I'll just go to sleep now. I had to do so hours ago, after all.
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Post by Qetesh on Jan 11, 2015 23:56:24 GMT
Which also shows that the job of police isn't the main part. I recently read an article that claimed that black people didn't progress and it was whites who finally stopped their oppression. Bullshit! The biggest progress to compare with first days after the end of slavery aren't on the political side. They lie within education. Even now there are so-called black brothers who grow up surrounded by crime and get used to it so much they can't do anything else. I's much more about social categories than races, and the difference between Detroit and Belfast also lies not in the size of police force, but in the type and level of education and civil services. Racism is a whole other ball of wax. Wilmington is so bad because of two problems, one is how convenient the location is to Baltimore and Philadelphia drug dealers and two is that it is a city where people mostly work and not choose to live. All races a like live in slums there and education has been proven to mean nothing in the matter since Delaware had forced busing to alleviate this but it did no good. Busing, btw, in Delaware is where the half the "poor inner city kids" are bused to the affluent suburbs and half the "wealthy privileged rich kids" are shipped to poor inner city schools. After decades the end result was more and more crime in all the schools and most parents were pissed at their kids commutes doubling daily. I was a parent of one those suburban kids and it was quite the joy to drive past the drug dealers to pick up my pre-tween in a school where the kids were not allowed outside to play because it was deemed un-safe, and so I call BS on education being a reason to join a gang and sell drugs and rob little old ladies. I also think it had nothing to do with race. You grow up and are given choices and you are responsible for the ones you make. If you can't find work in Delaware, you have welfare, food stamps, medicaid and free job training and placement. If you choose to be a criminal, it is all on you. I grew up on food stamps and free lunches at school aka piss poor, btw in a non affluent suburb of Philly. I know some people that never was willing to work to have a better life and so they never did. I wanted out of being poor so bad I worked 2-3 jobs to make something of myself. You can hear the same story from people from all races, if you are willing to flip burgers, scrub toilets and dig ditches you can make a life for yourself. You simply can't blame bad schools in Delaware in any way shape or form. There is no excuse for how bad it has gotten. ...and yeah, much heavier convo than I intended and I will say I know nothing of what is it like in Russia. I know only of how it is from my neck of the woods in USA. The gangs of US cities are not from just one race or another, drug dealing and gang banging seems to be an equal opportunity employer as well.
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Post by morsealworth on Jan 12, 2015 9:14:07 GMT
Which also shows that the job of police isn't the main part. I recently read an article that claimed that black people didn't progress and it was whites who finally stopped their oppression. Bullshit! The biggest progress to compare with first days after the end of slavery aren't on the political side. They lie within education. Even now there are so-called black brothers who grow up surrounded by crime and get used to it so much they can't do anything else. I's much more about social categories than races, and the difference between Detroit and Belfast also lies not in the size of police force, but in the type and level of education and civil services. Racism is a whole other ball of wax. Wilmington is so bad because of two problems, one is how convenient the location is to Baltimore and Philadelphia drug dealers and two is that it is a city where people mostly work and not choose to live. All races a like live in slums there and education has been proven to mean nothing in the matter since Delaware had forced busing to alleviate this but it did no good. Busing, btw, in Delaware is where the half the "poor inner city kids" are bused to the affluent suburbs and half the "wealthy privileged rich kids" are shipped to poor inner city schools. After decades the end result was more and more crime in all the schools and most parents were pissed at their kids commutes doubling daily. I was a parent of one those suburban kids and it was quite the joy to drive past the drug dealers to pick up my pre-tween in a school where the kids were not allowed outside to play because it was deemed un-safe, and so I call BS on education being a reason to join a gang and sell drugs and rob little old ladies. I also think it had nothing to do with race. You grow up and are given choices and you are responsible for the ones you make. If you can't find work in Delaware, you have welfare, food stamps, medicaid and free job training and placement. If you choose to be a criminal, it is all on you. I grew up on food stamps and free lunches at school aka piss poor, btw in a non affluent suburb of Philly. I know some people that never was willing to work to have a better life and so they never did. I wanted out of being poor so bad I worked 2-3 jobs to make something of myself. You can hear the same story from people from all races, if you are willing to flip burgers, scrub toilets and dig ditches you can make a life for yourself. You simply can't blame bad schools in Delaware in any way shape or form. There is no excuse for how bad it has gotten. ...and yeah, much heavier convo than I intended and I will say I know nothing of what is it like in Russia. I know only of how it is from my neck of the woods in USA. The gangs of US cities are not from just one race or another, drug dealing and gang banging seems to be an equal opportunity employer as well. Are you one of those people who think that education happens only in school? Parents/friends who teach the children to work with drugs is education as well, and much more natural and efficient, at that. No wonder they choose more practical things that enable them to survive. Not to mention that the biggest part of education lies not in feeding information, but in motivating towards interesting paths in the future. And that is exactly what your education system failed to do.
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Post by Qetesh on Jan 12, 2015 13:23:38 GMT
Racism is a whole other ball of wax. Wilmington is so bad because of two problems, one is how convenient the location is to Baltimore and Philadelphia drug dealers and two is that it is a city where people mostly work and not choose to live. All races a like live in slums there and education has been proven to mean nothing in the matter since Delaware had forced busing to alleviate this but it did no good. Busing, btw, in Delaware is where the half the "poor inner city kids" are bused to the affluent suburbs and half the "wealthy privileged rich kids" are shipped to poor inner city schools. After decades the end result was more and more crime in all the schools and most parents were pissed at their kids commutes doubling daily. I was a parent of one those suburban kids and it was quite the joy to drive past the drug dealers to pick up my pre-tween in a school where the kids were not allowed outside to play because it was deemed un-safe, and so I call BS on education being a reason to join a gang and sell drugs and rob little old ladies. I also think it had nothing to do with race. You grow up and are given choices and you are responsible for the ones you make. If you can't find work in Delaware, you have welfare, food stamps, medicaid and free job training and placement. If you choose to be a criminal, it is all on you. I grew up on food stamps and free lunches at school aka piss poor, btw in a non affluent suburb of Philly. I know some people that never was willing to work to have a better life and so they never did. I wanted out of being poor so bad I worked 2-3 jobs to make something of myself. You can hear the same story from people from all races, if you are willing to flip burgers, scrub toilets and dig ditches you can make a life for yourself. You simply can't blame bad schools in Delaware in any way shape or form. There is no excuse for how bad it has gotten. ...and yeah, much heavier convo than I intended and I will say I know nothing of what is it like in Russia. I know only of how it is from my neck of the woods in USA. The gangs of US cities are not from just one race or another, drug dealing and gang banging seems to be an equal opportunity employer as well. Are you one of those people who think that education happens only in school? Parents/friends who teach the children to work with drugs is education as well, and much more natural and efficient, at that. No wonder they choose more practical things that enable them to survive. Not to mention that the biggest part of education lies not in feeding information, but in motivating towards interesting paths in the future. And that is exactly what your education system failed to do. Are you a parent? Have you raised a child?
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Post by morsealworth on Jan 12, 2015 17:56:08 GMT
Are you one of those people who think that education happens only in school? Parents/friends who teach the children to work with drugs is education as well, and much more natural and efficient, at that. No wonder they choose more practical things that enable them to survive. Not to mention that the biggest part of education lies not in feeding information, but in motivating towards interesting paths in the future. And that is exactly what your education system failed to do. Are you a parent? Have you raised a child? you should understand my point all the more as a parent. You have seen for yourself that it wasn't the school that taught your daughter the most, right?
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Post by Qetesh on Jan 12, 2015 18:17:20 GMT
Are you a parent? Have you raised a child? you should understand my point all the more as a parent. You have seen for yourself that it wasn't the school that taught your daughter the most, right? Sigh... Your child is taught mostly by the parents. If a responsible parent teaches their child good morals and class, you could live in a box on the street or a penthouse in the sky and grow up right. It is lazy parents that blame exterior surroundings. I can't and won't debate parenting with anyone who has not been one, sorry. I also don't have much of a pot to piss in myself right now, but I feel no urge to rob,steal, maim or murder to fix my woes. This is how my parents brought me up. My older brother had it even worse and he grew up to be a Penn State US States Marine spokesperson. Growing up in poverty with mediocre schools and a crime covered neighborhood, but a strict and moral home upbringing by your parents makes a world of difference. I am all for heated debates on some subjects, but I don't have the energy to continue along this line since we never agree on this stuff. Peace out.
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Post by morsealworth on Jan 12, 2015 18:47:13 GMT
you should understand my point all the more as a parent. You have seen for yourself that it wasn't the school that taught your daughter the most, right? Sigh... Your child is taught mostly by the parents. If a responsible parent teaches their child good morals and class, you could live in a box on the street or a penthouse in the sky and grow up right. It is lazy parents that blame exterior surroundings. I can't and won't debate parenting with anyone who has not been one, sorry. I also don't have much of a pot to piss in myself right now, but I feel no urge to rob,steal, maim or murder to fix my woes. This is how my parents brought me up. My older brother had it even worse and he grew up to be a Penn State US States Marine spokesperson. Growing up in poverty with mediocre schools and a crime covered neighborhood, but a strict and moral home upbringing by your parents makes a world of difference. I am all for heated debates on some subjects, but I don't have the energy to continue along this line since we never agree on this stuff. Peace out. Quod erat demonstrandum. You yourself proved what I was saying in the very beginning. Or do you, perhaps, do not include parents in surroundings?
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Post by morsealworth on Mar 30, 2015 12:18:32 GMT
...That male-on-male homosexuality is hated because of primate instincts? As you well, know, the only homosexuality really hated and persecuted is male-on-male homosexuality. You can open any penal code of the countries that ban gay people and all of them (All of them I've seen, at least) persecute lesbianism only when it's part of rape. Yet the homosexual males are victims of a huge witch hunt. The reason is in our genes. In study Non-human primates sexual behaviour is stated one of the most plausible theory for homosexual conduct male-on-male: But how did our hierarchical mechanisms diverge from the ones shown above? For that, let's go the the most antisocial, uncivilised and primitive subculture in the world - mob. I'm going to use Russian mob as example, since I'm better familiar with it. There is a ritual called "опускание" ("bringing down") in Russian prisons which puts the victim of the ritual to the lowest possible level of inmate hierarchy. The victim after the rituals is robbed of everything it may have, has to sleep on the floor near the parasha (toilet with a bucket inside that has to be changed and, naturally, stinks) and is free to abuse by anyone higher than him as long as the abuser doesn't touch him with anything other than his legs and penis. The ritual itself consists of anal rape combined with kicks and acts of humiliation. If an "опущенный" ("brought down") manages to touch the man higher in the hierarchy (most notable is kiss in the lips), the another man joins the untouchables. Why is this "ritual" that important? As marginal culture, the culture of mob is not based on any "higher values" (though it claims it is, as any other does), but is comprised of basic caveman-like protocols of hierarchy, respect, "understandings" (the main rule of which is фраер всегда не прав - "non-mobster is always wrong"), instincts and other kinda stull you can't find in natural environment (natives of Africa, sound America, Oceania) anymore. There are no more tribes free from civilisation, and our only source of non-civilised behaviour is this closed society incompatible with the civilisation in the first place. So the reason of hate on the homosexual behaviour is confusing natural abuse (natural in sense of happening between two healthy heterosexual men and therefore findable in natural conditions) with disorder-caused actual love and courtship. And since the confusement and subsequent reactions are unconscious, there is absolutely no damn way to point your finger at the reason the gay are hated (and then they hide behind the Bible and Quran which have a myth based on the same confusion and outlaw them outright).
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Post by morsealworth on Apr 28, 2015 10:08:58 GMT
... That sugar daddies are called daddies in every language? For example, in Russin it's "Папик", in Japanese it's "Papa" (otherwise very affectionate way co call a father). And the reason is simple. The whole behavior is an extrapolation of "Spoiled daughter" relationship. And I already told you that dating is an extrapolation of father-daughter relationship or sometimes mother-son relationship. By the way, gender inequality stems from the same reason. You don't see parent and child as having the same responsibilities, right? So people often subconsciously assign rights and responsibilities according to the role. And as primary form of love (and consequent intersexual relationships) was Grizelda-Electra (Father-Daugher), the patriarchy was a logical result that. Not because everyone thought of sex all the time, it's because love is one of the main social instincts on which the whole society is based.
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