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Post by Gmr Leon on Sept 18, 2014 22:51:05 GMT
Maybe that is why he doesn't realise the game is balls, because he is playing a game that only exists in his imagination. Oh no, he realizes it sucks, he's said as much in the form of "but is it great?". However that is a consistent Molyneuxism, playing parts of the game that are still lingering about his mind yet to, if ever, emerge in the game itself.
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Post by Qetesh on Sept 18, 2014 22:56:20 GMT
Is it just me or does this sound like hubworld? Also how will we build an ark without wood? How have we build anything untill now? Belief and time. ...and gems.
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Post by Danjal on Sept 18, 2014 23:09:31 GMT
Well gems pretty much exclusively convert to time and belief (I don't count cards as they are kind-of a moot point once you have everything unlocked and are otherwise also acquired through belief and time...)
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Post by hardly on Sept 19, 2014 6:41:49 GMT
Someone should put some quotes to the bit where peter is bisected by the game overview.
Its sad that in 24 minutes they exhaust all the gameplay.
I'm inclined to call bullshit on Peter's climate change mechanics and moral mechanics but perhaps its in the latest dev build.
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Post by hardly on Sept 19, 2014 6:44:12 GMT
I love how when they start building the beacon it comes up as 24 hours. These guys should be commenting on this stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2014 7:21:37 GMT
Hype... We've already paid, they gain nothing from informing us. But inform mainstream media and personalties such as Yogscast, and leave a positive impression with those not yet aware of the reality surrounding Godus? And you might just get a few sales on your hands. ESPECIALLY when it comes down to Yogscast, their fans will take in anything that the Yogscast praises. They won't look further, they'll buy it. Only to come to their senses a week later when they realized what they bought. Exactly. It's pretty much just SOP for this company, or perhaps just Molyneaux, specifically. Remember way back in March, how the videos at the time had him talking about the exciting new features they were totally going to add in a week or two, hubworld and commandments?!? March, dude. That's how they hyped it then. Things haven't changed. To be blunt, though I personally like Matthew and George, this company sucks just as much at communication as it always has, and it's pretty absurd. Like always, we won't know what they're working on until it's just about to be released. It's just bizarre to me when I compare it to something like KSP, which doesn't have a fleet of CMs, and has zero problem communicating what the game is, what it will be, and what is being worked on by whom. There's zero ambiguity, and it really shouldn't be difficult to achieve that. Yet here we are. Still. It was the same a year ago, before SEA - they made some nice interviews showing the best they can show, leaving things out not so good to show (like the shop). I remember them showing rivers on gamescom - talked like they are in - took almost one year until they finally made it.
It's all a big marketing show.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2014 7:25:58 GMT
I find it somewhat hilarious and ironic that Peter lied out his arse about there being some sort of moral system already in place. OR IS THERE?!?!?!?!? I think it's like the simulation of every grain of sand.
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Post by zeruelb on Sept 19, 2014 8:37:00 GMT
so thats how they plan to reset the world on each update.
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Post by hardly on Sept 19, 2014 8:55:03 GMT
You mean the ark? Seems weird and sounds like you go to new home world. I hope he was talking about hubworld. So fucked off that they didn't follow this up with actual details if what he was talking about.
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Post by Danjal on Sept 19, 2014 9:31:57 GMT
You mean the ark? Seems weird and sounds like you go to new home world. I hope he was talking about hubworld. So fucked off that they didn't follow this up with actual details if what he was talking about. You imply that the Yogscast should've been thinking on their feet and ask critical questions? Rather than playing the humour card and just muckin around?
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Post by heggers on Sept 19, 2014 9:31:57 GMT
Ugh... the Yogscast... Its sad that 22Cans are trying this strategy. Thing is these guys aren't video game journalists (they've admitted quite freely being little more than entertainers) and I personally question their objectivity. The only point of this to get a bunch of kids who idolise these greedy people to go out and buying copies of this "game".
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Post by hardly on Sept 19, 2014 9:37:09 GMT
You mean the ark? Seems weird and sounds like you go to new home world. I hope he was talking about hubworld. So fucked off that they didn't follow this up with actual details if what he was talking about. You imply that the Yogscast should've been thinking on their feet and ask critical questions? Rather than playing the humour card and just muckin around? Just to clarify I was referring to 22cans doing cleanup and releasing some details to back up peters impromptu announcements re the ark, climate change and morals. I am however sick of games journalist creaming themselves over the great peter molyneux. They should be asking some questions about why the hell would any of this be fun. They didn't mention the 24 hour timer on the beacon.
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Post by heggers on Sept 19, 2014 9:44:32 GMT
You imply that the Yogscast should've been thinking on their feet and ask critical questions? Rather than playing the humour card and just muckin around? Just to clarify I was referring to 22cans doing cleanup and releasing some details to back up peters impromptu announcements re the ark, climate change and morals. I am however sick of games journalist creaming themselves over the great peter molyneux. They should be asking some questions about why the hell would any of this be fun. They didn't mention the 24 hour timer on the beacon. I'll just leave this here... www.reddit.com/r/Yogscast/comments/2afpqz/an_open_letter_about_yogdiscovery/
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Post by hardly on Sept 19, 2014 9:49:25 GMT
Their entitled to their position but I think if you broadcast you have a responsibility to inform otherwise you are just helping people like Peter suck unwitting people in to buy GODUS. You can inform and be funny at the same time.
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Post by heggers on Sept 19, 2014 9:51:51 GMT
My point is they don't have the spine to ask these kind of questions. They just care about their own bank balances at the end of the day
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Post by hardly on Sept 19, 2014 9:52:52 GMT
My point is they don't have the spine to ask these kind of questions. They just care about their own bank balances at the end of the day Fair enough.
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Post by Danjal on Sept 19, 2014 9:58:06 GMT
You imply that the Yogscast should've been thinking on their feet and ask critical questions? Rather than playing the humour card and just muckin around? Just to clarify I was referring to 22cans doing cleanup and releasing some details to back up peters impromptu announcements re the ark, climate change and morals. I am however sick of games journalist creaming themselves over the great peter molyneux. They should be asking some questions about why the hell would any of this be fun. They didn't mention the 24 hour timer on the beacon. Well thats the thing, Yogscast aren't journalists, they are a bunch of clowns that care mostly about the attention they get. All things considered they could be far worse, but mature they are not. On the whole, they aren't in it to ask questions - they're in it to have a laugh. Which simply means that this video had only one purpose. *HYPE* By reaching the Yogscast target audience (a large group consisting of mostly younger gamers that literally eat up anything that the Yogscast is even only slightly positive about). They potentially reach a bunch of sales. If you then preach some features that sound amazing, or make features sound amazing by preaching them. And you gloss over the problems that the game is facing. Well, lets just say that in that regard Yogscast and Peter are a match made in heaven. Both of them care more about revenue and views than about objectivity. And both of them don't see a problem with resorting to cheating when things get a bit iffy.
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Post by rubgish on Sept 19, 2014 10:24:25 GMT
It seems a bit silly to blame yogscast in any way, it's like comedy news shows (e.g. mock the week). Sure they are technically about the news, but they sure as hell won't actually tell you anything important about that weeks news, they'll just make good comedy out of it. Similarly, yogscast don't intend to do anything except make funny videos that people enjoy watching, they don't care about the quality of the game itself.
On the 22cans side, it's obviously good publicity for them. Unless you are making fun of how terrible something is, then comedy always makes things look better. Thus 22cans get pretty much guaranteed good publicity and thus an increase in sales.
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Post by hardly on Sept 19, 2014 10:32:01 GMT
Comedy can be informative, look at the daily show. So much opportunity to make fun of Peter molyneux and GODUS.
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Post by Gmr Leon on Sept 19, 2014 22:34:29 GMT
Not going to disagree with others, I find Simon as annoying as everyone else, but the second video's out now. Peter elaborates on how the ark will operate a little. It seems he's kind of revisiting Black & White 2's approach with visiting different islands, except this time taking a timeline progression approach along with meeting other civilizations. I'm not sure I'm too happy about that, since while it wasn't too bad with Black & White 2, I do much prefer the idea of a persistent Homeworld. That's even if it simply means revisiting your former worlds for resources or to quell some sorts of rebellions as discussed in the feature request thread. This decision, if it sticks, completely disregards the possibility of a more natural workaround to diminishing Homeworld populations to avoid performance slowdown (which is probably the major reason for this design decision). What makes this even more problematic is that this requires building new Homeworlds for each big part of timeline progression, and although this next update (if it comes when they claim) may have only taken a little over a month, dedicated players will reach the upper performance limits of the game in the time it takes them to circumvent these problems through new Homeworld production. Now given, they suggest the next tribe the Mimis(sp?) may be a little more hostile, this still doesn't fix things very well. This instead may introduce feature creep and/or throwaway features, both of which are rather bad moves in that one creates numerous poorly stitched together and shallow features, whereas the other creates a bunch of shallow features that contribute nothing and waste time teaching the player of something they won't ever use again. It's hard to say right now whether it will go either way, but the direction it seems to suggest is somewhat worrisome as usual. Hopefully we can get 22cans' thoughts on this either with the existing questions or during the live discussion surrounding existing suggestions.
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