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Post by hardly on May 21, 2015 0:17:06 GMT
Holy hell... He almost sounds just like Molyneux.... Jack... if you're reading this... please... for the love of everything that is holy in game development... don't cross the line into Peter's overhyping/over promising shenanigans.. please... Thanks Do you think he'll release it as text that you discover in blue chests? |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2015 4:59:27 GMT
Holy hell... He almost sounds just like Molyneux.... Jack... if you're reading this... please... for the love of everything that is holy in game development... don't cross the line into Peter's overhyping/over promising shenanigans.. please... Thanks Do you think he'll release it as text that you discover in blue chests? Maybe. Can't wait to see if he tries to wrap it up in s$&tty wait timers and pretend he's some kind of visionary. grumbelgrumblecoffeegrumblegrumble |
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Post by Gmr Leon on May 21, 2015 6:02:40 GMT
Holy hell... He almost sounds just like Molyneux.... Jack... if you're reading this... please... for the love of everything that is holy in game development... don't cross the line into Peter's overhyping/over promising shenanigans.. please... Thanks I wouldn't say that. If it were Molyneux, he'd be making it out to be something more than it is. As I read that, it just sounds like Jack's passionate and excited about what he's up to, but at the same time knows it would be dumb to reveal it too soon. I've had moments like that where I know exactly what I'm thinking of and get excited about it, and may mumble off stuff like that, but I also recognize that it's still too undeveloped for anyone else to get excited over. It's not like he's going, "This story's absolutely revolutionary. It's a step forward for game narratives across the board. You'll care about every little character you interact with and feel heartbreak for them unlike you ever have in another game before." Now that sounds like Molyneux. |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2015 6:52:55 GMT
Holy hell... He almost sounds just like Molyneux.... Jack... if you're reading this... please... for the love of everything that is holy in game development... don't cross the line into Peter's overhyping/over promising shenanigans.. please... Thanks I wouldn't say that. If it were Molyneux, he'd be making it out to be something more than it is. As I read that, it just sounds like Jack's passionate and excited about what he's up to, but at the same time knows it would be dumb to reveal it too soon. I've had moments like that where I know exactly what I'm thinking of and get excited about it, and may mumble off stuff like that, but I also recognize that it's still too undeveloped for anyone else to get excited over. It's not like he's going, "This story's absolutely revolutionary. It's a step forward for game narratives across the board. You'll care about every little character you interact with and feel heartbreak for them unlike you ever have in another game before." Now that sounds like Molyneux. While I agree with you, I did try to express that I though Jack was getting quite close to a line PM crossed years ago, not that he had already. I suppose my reaction to the quote was Pavlovian in a sense since I recall PM making a similar statement about Godus... Maybe I'll go find it after I wake up a bit. |
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Post by Matthew Allen on May 21, 2015 20:47:16 GMT
Holy hell... He almost sounds just like Molyneux.... Jack... if you're reading this... please... for the love of everything that is holy in game development... don't cross the line into Peter's overhyping/over promising shenanigans.. please... Thanks Though if we're being fair, an obsession with story during super early pre-production is definitely not a Molyneux trait.  Do you think he'll release it as text that you discover in blue chests? Maybe. Can't wait to see if he tries to wrap it up in s$&tty wait timers and pretend he's some kind of visionary. grumbelgrumblecoffeegrumblegrumble Never say never, but I always got the impression that Jack had a different vision in mind than the direction that Peter ended up taking. You can sometimes see a bit of this in the old Peter and Jack videos. So Jack might benefit greatly from having full control over a project for once. Anyway, just my two cents.* * Yay for awkwardly riding a fine line when it comes to talking about ex-coworkers! |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2015 21:06:59 GMT
Holy hell... He almost sounds just like Molyneux.... Jack... if you're reading this... please... for the love of everything that is holy in game development... don't cross the line into Peter's overhyping/over promising shenanigans.. please... Thanks Though if we're being fair, an obsession with story during super early pre-production is definitely not a Molyneux trait. Maybe. Can't wait to see if he tries to wrap it up in s$&tty wait timers and pretend he's some kind of visionary. grumbelgrumblecoffeegrumblegrumble Never say never, but I always got the impression that Jack had a different vision in mind than the direction that Peter ended up taking. You can sometimes see a bit of this in the old Peter and Jack videos. So Jack might benefit greatly from having full control over a project for once. Anyway, just my two cents.* * Yay for awkwardly riding a fine line when it comes to talking about ex-coworkers! Hahaha, you make great points. :3 I really do hope that Jack surpasses Molyneux where good game design and thoughtful production is concerned.. maybe I should just stop early-morning-angry posting. sigh. |
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Post by totallytim on May 21, 2015 21:08:25 GMT
* Yay for awkwardly riding a fine line when it comes to talking about ex-coworkers! One of us! One of us! One of us! |
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Post by nikink on May 21, 2015 21:26:49 GMT
I would be amused if Jack becomes an 'Industry Great' by virtue of simply using PM as a go to example of what not to do.  |
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Post by Lord Ba'al on May 21, 2015 22:41:30 GMT
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Post by Lord Ba'al on May 21, 2015 23:07:54 GMT
(I think the subtitle "An interactive period drama" could use some rethinking.)
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Post by hardly on May 22, 2015 1:14:20 GMT
I would be amused if Jack becomes an 'Industry Great' by virtue of simply using PM as a go to example of what not to do. I don't see Jack making peters mistakes about hype and broken promises but I do expect his game will be targeted at the casual audience. Happy to be surprised though if it's PC orientated. |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2015 1:26:02 GMT
I would be amused if Jack becomes an 'Industry Great' by virtue of simply using PM as a go to example of what not to do. I don't see Jack making peters mistakes about hype and broken promises but I do expect his game will be targeted at the casual audience. Happy to be surprised though if it's PC orientated. Here is an important point, especially when starting up a new development studio. Establishing your development pipeline and how well you're able to make content together is one of the more important things to get right early, preferably ironing out any problems with the least amount of risk on a small title, then work on something a bit larger when you feel you can better estimate your team's ability vs. time (and ultimately, money). Plus at this point, you and others would feel more comfortable in backing new projects once you have tested the waters already with some proof of work. One of the things that 22cans did right with Curiosity - What's in the Box? |
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Post by 13thGeneral on May 22, 2015 2:42:42 GMT
* Yay for awkwardly riding a fine line when it comes to talking about ex-coworkers! One of us! One of us! One of us! Dragon! Dragon! Dragon! EDIT: For anyone that missed it, this was a reference to the Discworld adventure game; |
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Post by 13thGeneral on May 22, 2015 2:45:40 GMT
I got blocked by Wil Wheaton on Twitter; He posted a while back that he accidentally blocked a large number of followers. I can't even re-tweet him. |
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Post by Lord Ba'al on May 22, 2015 9:47:29 GMT
I got blocked by Wil Wheaton on Twitter; He posted a while back that he accidentally blocked a large number of followers. I can't even re-tweet him. I shall tweet him and ask him to unblock you. (Again)  |
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Post by Lord Ba'al on May 22, 2015 22:25:07 GMT
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Post by totallytim on May 22, 2015 22:39:03 GMT
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Post by Lord Ba'al on May 22, 2015 22:41:24 GMT
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Post by greay on May 22, 2015 22:56:29 GMT
Trail, obv. This is really cool! |
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