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Post by mindless on Jun 18, 2015 17:32:42 GMT
@colin what is the reason that this feature is being kept behind the curtains as a secret? seams backwards to me to keep secrets from your customers, i've seen (and backed) other high profile kickstarter developers that went off and developed some of their stuff in secret, and their eventual reveal has often been picked apart, with the community lamenting the lack of involvement, and having been denied their right to offer feedback when it could have been useful, I worry that your setting yourselves up for exactly this same situation.
Maybe there is a really good reason for keeping it hidden from view, but I can't think of one.
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Post by Gmr Leon on Jun 18, 2015 21:06:04 GMT
@colin what is the reason that this feature is being kept behind the curtains as a secret? seams backwards to me to keep secrets from your customers, i've seen (and backed) other high profile kickstarter developers that went off and developed some of their stuff in secret, and their eventual reveal has often been picked apart, with the community lamenting the lack of involvement, and having been denied their right to offer feedback when it could have been useful, I worry that your setting yourselves up for exactly this same situation. Maybe there is a really good reason for keeping it hidden from view, but I can't think of one. Bad habits are really hard to break.
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Post by andy22cans on Jun 19, 2015 9:23:56 GMT
@colin what is the reason that this feature is being kept behind the curtains as a secret? seams backwards to me to keep secrets from your customers, i've seen (and backed) other high profile kickstarter developers that went off and developed some of their stuff in secret, and their eventual reveal has often been picked apart, with the community lamenting the lack of involvement, and having been denied their right to offer feedback when it could have been useful, I worry that your setting yourselves up for exactly this same situation. Maybe there is a really good reason for keeping it hidden from view, but I can't think of one. It's something that has been raised quite a few times as a request by the community. It's more of a surprise than a secret.
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Jun 19, 2015 9:35:55 GMT
@colin what is the reason that this feature is being kept behind the curtains as a secret? seams backwards to me to keep secrets from your customers, i've seen (and backed) other high profile kickstarter developers that went off and developed some of their stuff in secret, and their eventual reveal has often been picked apart, with the community lamenting the lack of involvement, and having been denied their right to offer feedback when it could have been useful, I worry that your setting yourselves up for exactly this same situation. Maybe there is a really good reason for keeping it hidden from view, but I can't think of one. It's something that has been raised quite a few times as a request by the community. It's more of a surprise than a secret. Well then, what's the surprise?
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Post by eskaton23 on Jun 19, 2015 12:25:13 GMT
It's something that has been raised quite a few times as a request by the community. It's more of a surprise than a secret. Well then, what's the surprise? OMG.....the surprise....is it?, can it be true? You are offering me my money back? Joy abounding.
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Post by Spiderweb on Jun 19, 2015 14:24:39 GMT
@colin what is the reason that this feature is being kept behind the curtains as a secret? seams backwards to me to keep secrets from your customers, i've seen (and backed) other high profile kickstarter developers that went off and developed some of their stuff in secret, and their eventual reveal has often been picked apart, with the community lamenting the lack of involvement, and having been denied their right to offer feedback when it could have been useful, I worry that your setting yourselves up for exactly this same situation. Maybe there is a really good reason for keeping it hidden from view, but I can't think of one. It's something that has been raised quite a few times as a request by the community. It's more of a surprise than a secret. Lets play hot or cold, I have 2 guesses. Total removal of gems and stickers? Wild Animals/pets wandering around?
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Post by mrdrpink on Jun 19, 2015 14:54:06 GMT
It's something that has been raised quite a few times as a request by the community. It's more of a surprise than a secret. Lets play hot or cold, I have 2 guesses. Total removal of gems and stickers? Wild Animals/pets wandering around? Maybe start another thread up for this?
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Jun 19, 2015 15:08:16 GMT
It's something that has been raised quite a few times as a request by the community. It's more of a surprise than a secret. Lets play hot or cold, I have 2 guesses. Total removal of gems and stickers? Wild Animals/pets wandering around? You can only have one guess at a time!
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Post by Spiderweb on Jun 19, 2015 16:04:08 GMT
Lets play hot or cold, I have 2 guesses. Total removal of gems and stickers? Wild Animals/pets wandering around? You can only have one guess at a time! One for me and one for my imaginary friend
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Jun 19, 2015 19:28:36 GMT
You can only have one guess at a time! One for me and one for my imaginary friend Ah, I see. So you're putting your imaginary friend above your real friends. That's nice.
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Post by Spiderweb on Jun 19, 2015 20:24:22 GMT
One for me and one for my imaginary friend Ah, I see. So you're putting your imaginary friend above your real friends. That's nice. Harvey the rabbit is offended you wouldn't call him a friend.
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Jun 19, 2015 20:42:37 GMT
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Post by Spiderweb on Jun 20, 2015 5:20:06 GMT
Lets play hot or cold, I have 2 guesses. Total removal of gems and stickers? Wild Animals/pets wandering around? Maybe start another thread up for this? If we did another thread would 22 cans play though?
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Post by jackof22cans on Jun 21, 2015 23:32:53 GMT
Holy hell... He almost sounds just like Molyneux.... Jack... if you're reading this... please... for the love of everything that is holy in game development... don't cross the line into Peter's overhyping/over promising shenanigans.. please... Thanks I am reading. Thanks for your advice! Of course we will strive to make something great, and a line I've been throwing around is that we will not say anything we cannot show. If I get passionate when talking about what we're making then I want to make sure I can back it up. So far the handful of people I've shown our early prototypes to has been very positive. As I will be designing to my own vision this time around I hope it is something that will surprise you
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Post by hardly on Jun 22, 2015 0:00:33 GMT
Holy hell... He almost sounds just like Molyneux.... Jack... if you're reading this... please... for the love of everything that is holy in game development... don't cross the line into Peter's overhyping/over promising shenanigans.. please... Thanks I am reading. Thanks for your advice! Of course we will strive to make something great, and a line I've been throwing around is that we will not say anything we cannot show. If I get passionate when talking about what we're making then I want to make sure I can back it up. So far the handful of people I've shown our early prototypes to has been very positive. As I will be designing to my own vision this time around I hope it is something that will surprise you Good luck Jack. I believe I speak for the majority of people here when I say there his a high degree of curiosity (pun intended) in your next effort.
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Post by Gmr Leon on Jun 22, 2015 0:32:28 GMT
I am reading. Thanks for your advice! Of course we will strive to make something great, and a line I've been throwing around is that we will not say anything we cannot show. If I get passionate when talking about what we're making then I want to make sure I can back it up. So far the handful of people I've shown our early prototypes to has been very positive. As I will be designing to my own vision this time around I hope it is something that will surprise you Good luck Jack. I believe I speak for the majority of people here when I say there his a high degree of curiosity (pun intended) in your next effort. It's a soon to be hit called Molyboppin', a beat'em up where you punch and kick through visionaries and their detractors to create something within the realm of realism that still does enough different to be appealing without being a letdown. There's a secret boss at the end that represents the duality of impractical idealism and cynical realism that are simultaneously defeating themselves as much as you're defeating them, leading to a truly unique end game experience. The hardest part of creating the game is ensuring that these come across more metaphorically than literally, but rest assured, Jack and Pavle have it in the bag.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 7:28:46 GMT
Holy hell... He almost sounds just like Molyneux.... Jack... if you're reading this... please... for the love of everything that is holy in game development... don't cross the line into Peter's overhyping/over promising shenanigans.. please... Thanks I am reading. Thanks for your advice! Of course we will strive to make something great, and a line I've been throwing around is that we will not say anything we cannot show. If I get passionate when talking about what we're making then I want to make sure I can back it up. So far the handful of people I've shown our early prototypes to has been very positive. As I will be designing to my own vision this time around I hope it is something that will surprise you I can say that GODUS was a big surprise for me. Ok, not like i hoped it will be ... but a big surprise. So you (ok ... with Peter) surprised me once already. Maybe you can do it a second time in the other direction. We'll see. I wish you the best.
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Jun 23, 2015 15:45:06 GMT
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Jun 28, 2015 18:35:09 GMT
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Jul 1, 2015 20:07:21 GMT
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