Post by Deleted on May 31, 2015 12:05:31 GMT
The Godus moderators aren't the only ones who have managed their forums with some questionable antics.
Just recently, one of the Star Trek Online moderators made a post that...well, Gene Roddenberry would probably roll in his grave over*:
sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=24066111
Just so we're sure about this troglodyte's stance, "killing = good" while "a same-sex relationship but don't actually force that into someone's face but mentions their relationship in passing in a setting that is obviously more progressive than whatever hole this fellow crawled out from = think of the childrens, and I haven't properly taught my children to think of it as an abomination like I do".
Of course, this is all made completely hilarious by this post's details:
sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=24067701
If you haven't spoken to your kids yet that there are relationships not completely Abrahamic in the world, then perhaps you shouldn't have them playing online games, and should probably have been a better parent before they became old enough to play the T (Teen) rated game. Explaining the "difference" of same-sex relationships is only a "problem" if you're one of those who disapproves of it and haven't yet figured out how to best demonise it without looking like a complete tool, else it's just simply two people who love each other and what is the problem with that?
Which is a point brought up by this post:
sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=24075641
This is why it is a good idea to know who your moderators are before you assign them a task that could lead to public embarrassment for the company, especially when they are that astoundingly ignorant about the setting. Bad enough that the community manager had to lock an official thread.
* - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexuality_in_Star_Trek
Just recently, one of the Star Trek Online moderators made a post that...well, Gene Roddenberry would probably roll in his grave over*:
I'm going to say that I am a little disappointed by the House Pegh storyline. I've only played it part way through so far, so I can't comment on everything. I may have more comments later.
SPOILERS FOLLOW!!!!
What should have been a moving story about the sacrifice one man makes to stand against evil and save others was turned into a politically correct/incorrect sideshow. I do not support that or agree with it.
I mean, you have freaking Kahless himself being killed by the Iconians and the Sword of Kahless lost in an Iconian base. It's a tragedy! Very dramatic storytelling! But it ends up being about a lesbian couple in the forums.
I can admire devotion and affection for another person, regardless of gender. It doesn't have to be about sex. It didn't have to be about sex here, and would have played just as well without using the word 'mate'. It's a word with a very specific meaning in a specific biological context.
I feel that in their attempt to be politically correct, Cryptic not only invited controversy they also distracted and detracted from the story they were trying to tell. The death of Kahless at the hands of the Iconians.
I feel they also showed a lack of respect for the fact that the game is played by children as well as adults (rated T!) and this was an inappropriate subject to casually toss in.
I will say that it was at least not extremely overt and many children will miss it (as some of the adults did). But I feel parents have the right to be aware when things like this are brought up in a game context and not be blindsided by them. I am previewing the episode and have a chance to be a responsible parent to my teenage sons who play STO and have a discussion about it. If Cryptic wants to set this as a precedent and abuse my trust in their discretion, then I either need to preview every single episode before my sons get a chance to play it or I need to prevent them from playing at all. Either way, Cryptic, do you really want people preventing their kids from logging in at convenient times?
There was one other thing that bothered me about the story and it had nothing to do with the subject of mates. The fact that a character gets away with calling a Dahar Master a petaQ and I don't get to knock them on their butts or threaten to kill them for it like a good Klingon would have done, that was very unsatisfying.
SPOILERS FOLLOW!!!!
What should have been a moving story about the sacrifice one man makes to stand against evil and save others was turned into a politically correct/incorrect sideshow. I do not support that or agree with it.
I mean, you have freaking Kahless himself being killed by the Iconians and the Sword of Kahless lost in an Iconian base. It's a tragedy! Very dramatic storytelling! But it ends up being about a lesbian couple in the forums.
I can admire devotion and affection for another person, regardless of gender. It doesn't have to be about sex. It didn't have to be about sex here, and would have played just as well without using the word 'mate'. It's a word with a very specific meaning in a specific biological context.
I feel that in their attempt to be politically correct, Cryptic not only invited controversy they also distracted and detracted from the story they were trying to tell. The death of Kahless at the hands of the Iconians.
I feel they also showed a lack of respect for the fact that the game is played by children as well as adults (rated T!) and this was an inappropriate subject to casually toss in.
I will say that it was at least not extremely overt and many children will miss it (as some of the adults did). But I feel parents have the right to be aware when things like this are brought up in a game context and not be blindsided by them. I am previewing the episode and have a chance to be a responsible parent to my teenage sons who play STO and have a discussion about it. If Cryptic wants to set this as a precedent and abuse my trust in their discretion, then I either need to preview every single episode before my sons get a chance to play it or I need to prevent them from playing at all. Either way, Cryptic, do you really want people preventing their kids from logging in at convenient times?
There was one other thing that bothered me about the story and it had nothing to do with the subject of mates. The fact that a character gets away with calling a Dahar Master a petaQ and I don't get to knock them on their butts or threaten to kill them for it like a good Klingon would have done, that was very unsatisfying.
sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=24066111
Just so we're sure about this troglodyte's stance, "killing = good" while "a same-sex relationship but don't actually force that into someone's face but mentions their relationship in passing in a setting that is obviously more progressive than whatever hole this fellow crawled out from = think of the childrens, and I haven't properly taught my children to think of it as an abomination like I do".
Of course, this is all made completely hilarious by this post's details:
sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=24067701
Well the common response to anyone that doesn't like something in the game applies: "Don't like it, don't play it." It's really as simple as that. To all those that are so offended, can I haz your stuffs? I think the Devs added a subtle and classy addition of IDIC in this episode.
Oh but the children, the CHILDREN!!! So 97% naked orions complete with a sexual trait, the summer orgy event, a male NPC watching a male NPC stripper, essentially having furries represented in game with Cataian/Faresians, Not to mention the mass slaughter of the Acamarians, Borg, Breen, Cardassian, Gorn, Federation species, Heralds, Kazon, Klingons, Malon, Nausicaans, Orions, Romulans, Remans, Tholians, and Vaaudwar just to name a few. My main toon has killed more people than every evil person that has ever existed during recorded history. All that is okay with some, but the briefest inclusion of a same sex couple sends you into Picard rage?
Oh but the children, the CHILDREN!!! So 97% naked orions complete with a sexual trait, the summer orgy event, a male NPC watching a male NPC stripper, essentially having furries represented in game with Cataian/Faresians, Not to mention the mass slaughter of the Acamarians, Borg, Breen, Cardassian, Gorn, Federation species, Heralds, Kazon, Klingons, Malon, Nausicaans, Orions, Romulans, Remans, Tholians, and Vaaudwar just to name a few. My main toon has killed more people than every evil person that has ever existed during recorded history. All that is okay with some, but the briefest inclusion of a same sex couple sends you into Picard rage?
If you haven't spoken to your kids yet that there are relationships not completely Abrahamic in the world, then perhaps you shouldn't have them playing online games, and should probably have been a better parent before they became old enough to play the T (Teen) rated game. Explaining the "difference" of same-sex relationships is only a "problem" if you're one of those who disapproves of it and haven't yet figured out how to best demonise it without looking like a complete tool, else it's just simply two people who love each other and what is the problem with that?
Which is a point brought up by this post:
"Gay people shouldn't be seen in media that my kids might see, because it's your responsibility to hide from my kids so they're not exposed to you" is not respectful nor tolerant. Even if you phrase it carefully.
This is why it is a good idea to know who your moderators are before you assign them a task that could lead to public embarrassment for the company, especially when they are that astoundingly ignorant about the setting. Bad enough that the community manager had to lock an official thread.
* - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexuality_in_Star_Trek
