Tweet I found while looking for Trail news -

And here's the actual tweet, for good measure.

Really, dude?

...wow.

I usually try to skirt around direct confrontation like this (and, in fact, almost always side with community members on any number of issues), but you're being an asshole who clearly has no idea how the industry actually works. What you're suggesting is an insanely ignorant standard of accountability. Bloody hell, man.

And, to be clear, I'm not arguing against that point. 22cans do have things they need to answer for or provide solutions for; no doubts there. My point, more specifically, is that it seems to me the height of ignorance to suggest that the best course of action is to hold every employee accountable for the sins of the company. There are many of us who worked on the game out of a genuine desire to impart positive change on a project that, as a concept, we saw potential in if handled properly. What Drake is saying he'll do is, at its core, a completely backwards standard of accountability.

By his standard, the person in charge of payroll for the SimCity debacle a few years back is just as complicit in the game's evil doings as EA's board members. Contracted to draw a few textures for a few months worth of work two years before SimCity even launched? Well, you better look out, because Drake is going to contact EVERYONE and let them know all about it. Because that's what you deserve.

So yeah, apologies for any lack of tact, but I call bullshit. There are some people who were working hard to improve things for the game and who were regularly raising concerns over certain decisions and I feel it'd be absolutely unreasonable to turn Godus into a type of permanent Scarlet Letter on a person's portfolio. Not to mention all of this will apparently be enforced by Drake who will be religiously following each employee's career for any number of years in order to carry out some bizarre sense of justice (let alone suggesting that this should be regulated by keeping a list of names or some such nonsense). These are not things a rational person would do.

What the hell.

How does that make it any more reasonable?

I didn't say it was or it wasn't. Just trying to be precise. I'm not trying to mix myself in this discussion.

it is somewhat unfair to blame the troops for just following orders, when its the higher up's that are to blame. They are just doing their job, and so long as they were unaware of the scamminess of it all I'd say give them a break, but only upto a point, anyone that had the conviction of their morals to quit once the truth came out (Fabs for instance) certainly shouldn't be targeted.

With molyneux all but admitting its been a con job the whole time, and the general pattern of behaviour thus far, I do still wonder why anyone wants to stay employed there, I guess a steady paycheck can help switch off that part of your brain that feels discomfort at being made to be complicit in committing bad deeds.

People working for/with 22 cans might have been ignorant of the con at the beggining. However, once it all came to light, they Molyneux scammed the Kickstatters to create a free to play game, sold multiple keys (to include the mobile platform), then further fleeced people on Steam Early Access, any employee, especially the newly hired were aware of the fraud, and their continuing contribution.

Those who chose to ignore the ethical, let alone criminal activities of the 22 cans, are culpable. How can it be a positive mark on one's resume that they worked at 22cans and helped to pull off a scam that defrauded tens of thousand of people out of over a million dollars.

There's absolutely nothing redeeming about 22 cans business practices, customer service, or community handling. This is a rare event when a 22 cans employee responds in a post at their own forums. And here all of a sudden we have a couple of them.

Now that you are here, I challenge you to name three things that 22 cans has ALREADY done to deliver on their promises.

That's why everyone deserves to know the past employment activity of those who work on any title they wish to purchase. It would prevent others from potential future scams.

You are aware that I don't work for 22cans, correct? That I put in my notice back in November 2014 over 10 months ago? That my participation in this community is based mostly on goodwill and good friends? Furthermore, are you suggesting that every employee, each and every single one of them, is culpable? Up to and including those who were actively working to encourage the company and development to adjust course to a more positive direction; one more aligned with the delivery of key promises? Even when some of those employees put in their notice specifically because they were ineffective in that course adjustment? I recommend that you reread my prior post as you seem to have made a grave misinterpretation of what I was attempting to communicate.



That's an excellent question and one that I imagine would be best answered by a community manager actively working for the company.

I don't think this thread represents the wider community view about who should take accountability for godus. One thing is for sure, the situation has become absurd. I mean that in that the act by 22cans that they are actually developing this game is a funny joke. At this rate the game will take longer to develop than Duke Nukem Forever.