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Post by morsealworth on Jul 30, 2014 16:49:19 GMT
There are three general types. 1. Stress and denial. Reaction mostly aggressive. Comes depending on their day of period. Also always comes if I describe them their way of manipulations. Also comes when we are not in a relationship and they want to make an impression and fail. 2. If I explain them that I do what I do because I use general ways of thinking by science they either don't believe me and laugh or laugh and show signs of surprise. In fact, that rises their opinion of me, others find me manipulative. This distinction depends on my non-verbal activity. The more I am distant from them, the more likely is the latter. 3. The most common response though is "Yes, so?" (in Russia women feel the difference between men and women as we have no ideology on this and our laws are highly egalitarian). I am blessed to be attractive enough to get that answer. Seriously, their reaction doesn't depend on what I say, but on how I say it. And it isn't even the wording, it's the voice and gestures. I couldn't just stand by and watch this train wreck without adding in my experiences and some proper scientific findings. Not once have you given any scientific proof backing up any of your claims, Morsealworth. All you've done is use big words which don't really make much sense because you've used a lot of them in the wrong context. (Hint: using big words only makes you think that they make you look smarter. They don't, really.) 1. What does a woman's period have to do with how they react to you? Periods do not equal aggressiveness. In fact, there have been studies proving that there are no direct correlations between a woman's period, hormone levels, and mood swings (please read this article for proof of this io9.com/5954142/new-research-suggests-premenstrual-syndrome-is-a-myth). I'm not even going to get into the "Women get aggressive when I turn them down" comment, because that's just pure sexist ego on your part. 2. People in general don't believe you and laugh at you because you unnecessarily use big words, you don't back up anything that you claim with scientific proof, and quite frankly, your overt sexism is sadly very easy to laugh at. 3. Russian laws are not egalitarian by any means. The accepted definition of "egalitarian" is as follows: "believing that everyone should have the same freedom and opportunities". Russian law is highly patriarchal. The Russian government puts females, gay/lesbian/bisexual people, and transgender people below heterosexual men in terms of freedoms and rights. For example, there aren't any laws protecting people from discrimination based on their sex, sexuality, or gender identity. In fact, one only has to look at recent news in Russia to find that homosexual and transgender people are often physically assaulted just because they deign to be open about who they are, and violence towards women (as of 2007 - sorry, it's the newest data I could find online) is extremely high, with nearly 60% of women having experienced it first hand during their life. (http://humanrightshouse.org/Articles/7821.html) Also, by your own "logic" (and I put that in irony quotes because your idea of logic is anything but), your own opinions are culturally contextual and would invariably differ had you been raised elsewhere. As such, there is no objective basis for your current opinions, even taking science into account, as it's all a matter of interpretation, which is contsrained by your upbringing. In other words, most people around the world in this day and age will accept a person for who they are and won't discriminate against them or otherwise put them down based on their physical sex, their sexuality, or their gender identity. However, you and others who share your world view do so on a daily basis and use "science" and cultural upbringing as reasons for doing so. 1. I say about not the day of menstruation. I say about different days of 28-day period. It depends on hormones released by hippocampus. 2. Well, I do not like to search instead of others.3. From constitution of RF. Our laws are designed to be absolutely the same regardless of gender. And yes, it is egalitarian way more than anything else if we assume that women are equal to men and do not require different laws of conduct towards them due to differences. And we do not oppress gay people. It's simply the words "gay marriage" contradict the definition of marriage here. They are free to be gay and express themselves being gay as long as they do not infringe rights of others. Making a show of being gay is like making a show of being able to take a pee while standing. Not to mention that your use of anti-Russian propaganda does not help your point. |
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Post by morsealworth on Jul 30, 2014 16:50:08 GMT
Who we have to thank for our ability to speak to each other right now? Alan Turing? I was thinking about von Neumann here. |
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Post by rubgish on Jul 30, 2014 17:04:12 GMT
I can't decide if he's more like a Romulan or a Vulcan.  Vulcans attempt to utilize logic rather than emotions, to the extent they work very hard on suppressing emotions. Romulans are the exact opposite in that they focus on using their emotions to do stuff, so what morsealworth is saying is that men are like Vulcans, women are like Romulans. Now if I remember my history correctly, the Romulans successfully infiltrated the Vulcan high command and almost re-united vulcans and romulans, but were stopped at the last minute by starfleet. Now I don't know how that works with the men/women analogy but it's kinda interesting nevertheless. As for morsealworth himself, he gets to be neither. As I explained in an earlier post (before I got bored of his quasi-arugments and started posting memes), he is mixing up his logic and emotion together to form a nice kind of pseudoscience that suits his world views. If he can find me any peer-reviewed paper published in a decent medical journal that says that "women are bad at logic because they have tiny brains", then i'll accept his argument  |
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Post by morsealworth on Jul 30, 2014 17:14:57 GMT
Did you look at the tables?
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Post by rubgish on Jul 30, 2014 17:15:36 GMT
I couldn't just stand by and watch this train wreck without adding in my experiences and some proper scientific findings. Not once have you given any scientific proof backing up any of your claims, Morsealworth. All you've done is use big words which don't really make much sense because you've used a lot of them in the wrong context. (Hint: using big words only makes you think that they make you look smarter. They don't, really.) 1. What does a woman's period have to do with how they react to you? Periods do not equal aggressiveness. In fact, there have been studies proving that there are no direct correlations between a woman's period, hormone levels, and mood swings (please read this article for proof of this io9.com/5954142/new-research-suggests-premenstrual-syndrome-is-a-myth). I'm not even going to get into the "Women get aggressive when I turn them down" comment, because that's just pure sexist ego on your part. 2. People in general don't believe you and laugh at you because you unnecessarily use big words, you don't back up anything that you claim with scientific proof, and quite frankly, your overt sexism is sadly very easy to laugh at. 3. Russian laws are not egalitarian by any means. The accepted definition of "egalitarian" is as follows: "believing that everyone should have the same freedom and opportunities". Russian law is highly patriarchal. The Russian government puts females, gay/lesbian/bisexual people, and transgender people below heterosexual men in terms of freedoms and rights. For example, there aren't any laws protecting people from discrimination based on their sex, sexuality, or gender identity. In fact, one only has to look at recent news in Russia to find that homosexual and transgender people are often physically assaulted just because they deign to be open about who they are, and violence towards women (as of 2007 - sorry, it's the newest data I could find online) is extremely high, with nearly 60% of women having experienced it first hand during their life. (http://humanrightshouse.org/Articles/7821.html) Also, by your own "logic" (and I put that in irony quotes because your idea of logic is anything but), your own opinions are culturally contextual and would invariably differ had you been raised elsewhere. As such, there is no objective basis for your current opinions, even taking science into account, as it's all a matter of interpretation, which is contsrained by your upbringing. In other words, most people around the world in this day and age will accept a person for who they are and won't discriminate against them or otherwise put them down based on their physical sex, their sexuality, or their gender identity. However, you and others who share your world view do so on a daily basis and use "science" and cultural upbringing as reasons for doing so. 1. I say about not the day of menstruation. I say about different days of 28-day period. It depends on hormones released by hippocampus. 2. Well, I do not like to search instead of others.3. From constitution of RF. Our laws are designed to be absolutely the same regardless of gender. And yes, it is egalitarian way more than anything else if we assume that women are equal to men and do not require different laws of conduct towards them due to differences. And we do not oppress gay people. It's simply the words "gay marriage" contradict the definition of marriage here. They are free to be gay and express themselves being gay as long as they do not infringe rights of others. Making a show of being gay is like making a show of being able to take a pee while standing. Not to mention that your use of anti-Russian propaganda does not help your point. Russia is super homophobic, I appreciate that being from Russia you are probably subject to very biased news sources that will skew your opinion with half-truths and incorrect facts, but literally every other country in the world thinks that Russia is homophobic. I mean you just said that gay marriage infringes on the right of other married people. I mean god forbid that two people of the same gender are happy together, I mean when you're in bed at night with your 3rd wife (cause divorce doesn't infringe on marriage amirite?) and then suddenly you just get a spidey-sense tingling of "Damn some gay married people in the privacy of their own home just had sex 5 miles away from here, now I just feel like my rights are being infringed", it just ruins the moment doesn't it? |
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Post by morsealworth on Jul 30, 2014 17:25:33 GMT
No, they are free to fuck each other all day long as long as they don't try to fuck us, as it isn't consensual.
And no, Russia is not homophobic. The weird thing is, in your fervor in pursuing "equality", you are overcompensating the difference making "not showing homosexuals off and not making a national holiday in name of LGBT" already an instance of homophobia. I do not like homosexuals. I do not hate homosexuals. As I do not like nor hate people defecating. I just don't want them to defecate/urinate/come on my face. Do it on each other, and you have all support you need.
And sex in pur country does not require marriage, you know? Also, the only reason we can't marry a brother and a sister because they're already a family, so there isn't any reason to do so.
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Post by rubgish on Jul 30, 2014 17:34:11 GMT
Aww is likkle morsealworth afraid that the big scary gay men are going to try and get with him, in exactly the same way he tries to get with women? Just because you are afraid of gay people doesn't mean you have the right to tell them what to do/what not to do. It's a personal problem on your end - you have the male privilege of expecting to be able to try and get with a woman and have them be okay with that. As soon as the tables are turned, and someone tries to get with you, you can't suddenly go "woah that's not okay bro!". If you want to be able to go up to a woman at a club and dance with them without explicitly asking their permission first, you should expect a gay man to be able to do the same to you. If you aren't okay with that, you're either sexist or homophobic, take your pick.
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Jul 30, 2014 17:38:28 GMT
Let's talk about female Jewish nazi homosexual politicians from Uganda.
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Post by morsealworth on Jul 30, 2014 17:42:46 GMT
First. I didn't say anything about trying. Everyone is free to try. I am against forcing anyone to make a show out of it. the same you do not make a show out of walking on the street.
And gay men do find other men in clubs. They even have gay clubs made specifically for that. It isn't us who shunned them there. They did it so it would be easier to find another member of a minority without getting through lots of disappointment.
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Post by morsealworth on Jul 30, 2014 17:44:22 GMT
Let's talk about female Jewish nazi homosexual politicians from Uganda. There's nothing to talk about. Wait. Female... Two girls, one cup then. |
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Post by rubgish on Jul 30, 2014 17:48:37 GMT
First. I didn't say anything about trying. Everyone is free to try. "No, they are free to fuck each other all day long as long as they don't try to fuck us" Ahem. From your last post. Anything else you want to contradict yourself on? (also the rest of your post is terrible too, just for the record). |
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Post by morsealworth on Jul 30, 2014 18:01:23 GMT
Trying to get aquainted for a relationship and trying to fuck disregarding the consent of the other party is a different thing. You call the latter "rape", I suppose.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2014 18:05:22 GMT
Guys. Gals. This is exactly what PM wants. Infighting, Implosion, Derision... Resist!  |
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Post by 13thGeneral on Jul 30, 2014 18:24:26 GMT
Guys. Gals. This is exactly what PM wants. Infighting, Implosion, Derision... Resist! HACK THE PLANET!! |
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Jul 30, 2014 18:25:23 GMT
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Post by Crumpy Six on Jul 30, 2014 18:56:36 GMT
This thread is nuts. I will freely admit to not having read most of what Morsealworth has posted, so everyone who accused me of being "ignorant of the thread" in my earlier post is 100% right! He posts like a crazy person ranting on a street corner. As soon as the biotruths cropped up I guess I tuned out.
I will also admit to being quite stung by Casinha's accusation that I am a misogynistic white knight who regards women as cattle. Ouch. Casinha, I'm really sorry I gave you that impression. Perhaps I could amend my last request that Morsealworth should "please stay away from women" to "please stay away from EVERYONE"? Then everyone is treated equally.
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Post by Casinha on Jul 31, 2014 8:53:35 GMT
This thread is nuts. I will freely admit to not having read most of what Morsealworth has posted, so everyone who accused me of being "ignorant of the thread" in my earlier post is 100% right! He posts like a crazy person ranting on a street corner. As soon as the biotruths cropped up I guess I tuned out. I will also admit to being quite stung by Casinha's accusation that I am a misogynistic white knight who regards women as cattle. Ouch. Casinha, I'm really sorry I gave you that impression. Perhaps I could amend my last request that Morsealworth should "please stay away from women" to "please stay away from EVERYONE"? Then everyone is treated equally. I think it was your not having read most of what Morsealwoth and then doing the forum equivalent of wandering around yelling and pointing fingers at him that got to me, so perhaps my assertion of your comment was excessive. As I said, it was likely unintentionally phrased and you were just looking to vent in some way, which is completely understandable given the controversy of the topic and the magnitude of the things that have been said. I don't particularly agree with a lot of what Morsealworth has said (or maybe it's more that I don't agree with the way he's said it), but his opinion is his own and this forum has the fortune of being run by someone who is willing to let people speak on. There are also vast cultural differences between the west and the east, so not seeing eye to eye is just something that we should all have to accept rather than berate (funnily enough me saying that is actually pushing my own culture and morality upon you guys, we just can't get away from it). So I'm sorry, my intention was never to be hurtful, I think I simply got a bit out of sorts. |
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Post by Crumpy Six on Jul 31, 2014 9:17:00 GMT
I wasn't "just venting". Morsealworth is entitled to his opinion (I never said he wasn't), but that doesn't mean his opinion isn't psychotic and awful. I'm not under the impression that he will ever be convinced to change his mind, but I think he definitely needs to be called out on it when he spews this drivel in public places.
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Post by Monkeythumbz on Jul 31, 2014 10:52:56 GMT
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Post by rubgish on Jul 31, 2014 11:00:04 GMT
Trying to get aquainted for a relationship and trying to fuck disregarding the consent of the other party is a different thing. You call the latter "rape", I suppose. Wait ima getting confused here... are you suggesting that if you allowed gay marriage then you'd increase the amount of rape that occurs? Seriously that's what i'm getting from following the conversation. |
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