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Post by Casinha on Jul 31, 2014 11:08:11 GMT
You're giving free expression of an opinion that you seem to feel strongly about (strong enough to tell someone to stay away from everyone), which is what venting is. I'll admit that I worded in a way that, in hindsight, belittles your message and I'm sorry for that. I done goofed.
I would like to ask, though, what does calling him out on anything get you? You've already said that you don't think he'll change his mind and with the direction this thread has gone I don't think anyone reading it is going to be second-guessing their original opinions.
I think I have sufficiently levelled up my pot-stirring skill, so I'll probably duck out at this point. *flappy cape vanishing sequence*
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Jul 31, 2014 11:49:23 GMT
*flappy cape vanishing sequence* Have you seen the series The Cape? It was on tv (briefly) a couple of years ago. Man was it horrid! Worst show I've ever seen.
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Post by Casinha on Jul 31, 2014 11:52:37 GMT
*flappy cape vanishing sequence* Have you seen the series The Cape? It was on tv (briefly) a couple of years ago. Man was it horrid! Worst show I've ever seen. I just looked it up on IMDB...ergh.
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Jul 31, 2014 11:54:41 GMT
Have you seen the series The Cape? It was on tv (briefly) a couple of years ago. Man was it horrid! Worst show I've ever seen. I just looked it up on IMDB...ergh. Yeah. I must have been seriously bored and sniffing glue when I decided to watch that.
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Post by Casinha on Jul 31, 2014 11:57:34 GMT
I dunno, give "No Ordinary Family" a watch if you want to dig out your eyeballs. And there's one called "The Tomorrow People" or something? Caught 5 minutes of it on tv and had to change the channel. I am currently watching the kids show Avatar: Last Airbender. It is very good.
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Post by morsealworth on Jul 31, 2014 14:02:45 GMT
Trying to get aquainted for a relationship and trying to fuck disregarding the consent of the other party is a different thing. You call the latter "rape", I suppose. Wait ima getting confused here... are you suggesting that if you allowed gay marriage then you'd increase the amount of rape that occurs? Seriously that's what i'm getting from following the conversation. Did I ever say anything about "gay marriage"? You know, there is a proverb in russian. "Dog wedding". What I am saying is, there would be absolutely no difference between unmarried gay couple and married gay couple. Seriously, why are you so hung about something that has absolutely zero use and start waving it around like a standard, trying to call something a human right where social relationship like that does not exist, never existed and isn't even required for any kind of equality. Straight men can merry any women. Straight women can marry any men. Gay men can marry any women. Gay women can marry any men. WHERE THE HELL DO YOU SEE UNEQUALITY OR OPPRESSION?
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Post by Monkeythumbz on Jul 31, 2014 14:05:10 GMT
Because in your world, gay men can't marry each other and neither can gay women. Neither of which, btw, has any impact whatsoever on straight men marrying straight women (or vice-versa).
In my world, people should be free to express their commitment and love for each other however they wish.
As my grandmother says, if you don't like gay marriage, don't marry a gay person. Simples!
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Jul 31, 2014 14:38:19 GMT
As my grandmother says, if you don't like gay marriage, don't marry a gay person. Simples! Shit. I think I might have made a mistake. If only your grandma had been able to get this information out to me sooner.
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Post by Monkeythumbz on Jul 31, 2014 14:43:42 GMT
Shit. I think I might have made a mistake. If only your grandma had been able to get this information out to me sooner. My favourite one of hers was how her father (my great-grandfather) apparently used to say, "I don't care what people get up to, so long as they don't frighten the horses."
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Post by morsealworth on Jul 31, 2014 18:13:40 GMT
Because in your world, gay men can't marry each other and neither can gay women. Neither of which, btw, has any impact whatsoever on straight men marrying straight women (or vice-versa). In my world, people should be free to express their commitment and love for each other however they wish. As my grandmother says, if you don't like gay marriage, don't marry a gay person. Simples! Marriage i not about "love and commitment". It's about childbirth. At least, in our country. And love and commitment is being a couple.
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Post by Monkeythumbz on Jul 31, 2014 18:35:49 GMT
Marriage i not about "love and commitment". It's about childbirth. At least, in our country. And love and commitment is being a couple. That's funny, because that doesn't appear anywhere in the word's definition and marriage is hardly a pre-requisite for pregnancy.
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Jul 31, 2014 19:49:59 GMT
What if you get pregnant and you're not married? And what if you get married and you're not pregnant? It's so confusing.
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Post by morsealworth on Aug 1, 2014 9:16:14 GMT
Marriage i not about "love and commitment". It's about childbirth. At least, in our country. And love and commitment is being a couple. That's funny, because that doesn't appear anywhere in the word's definition and marriage is hardly a pre-requisite for pregnancy. First, your definition is "world's definition" which is, as I already stated, different from Russian. Also, it's in English. You're just clinging to a misunderstanding here based on language and cultural differences. It's that in Russia marriage defines only two things: father of the child unless proven otherwise and property rights on everything bought by the two married. Both have only influence on the child and the rights of the child. And by the way, you can hold a wedding (religious one, even though weird for a type of couple forbidden by religion) here without actual marriage. There's also a proverb "citizens' marriage" (common use is incorrect, though, as the term is used to the registered marriage as stated in citizenry codex) that means living together as a couple without registering their union as marriage. Happens to both heterosexual and homosexual couples - no difference there, either.
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Post by Monkeythumbz on Aug 1, 2014 9:23:28 GMT
What if you get pregnant and you're not married? And what if you get married and you're not pregnant? It's so confusing. So long as you get me pregnant, we should be alright.
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Aug 1, 2014 10:45:15 GMT
What if you get pregnant and you're not married? And what if you get married and you're not pregnant? It's so confusing. So long as you get me pregnant, we should be alright. I shall strive hard to make little monkeythumbz.
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Aug 2, 2014 15:12:59 GMT
This was retweeted by Monkeythumbz. Somehow seemed somewhat appropriate here.
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Post by morsealworth on Aug 2, 2014 17:35:06 GMT
Is a person who misses a finger less a person? Or is a person who is born without an arm less a person?
Is a human who was born without ability of comprehension or with lesser ability of comprehension less a person?
I think not. They are still as human as everyone else.
Then why should a woman who isn't even inferior, but have different patterns and mechanisms of thinking,think herself inferior when reminded of this, and strongly reject the difference with all her might?
This is a thing I never understood, thing I cannot understand. Can somebody, anybody explain me this?
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Post by Monkeythumbz on Aug 2, 2014 18:00:29 GMT
Is a person who misses a finger less a person? Or is a person who is born without an arm less a person? Is a human who was born without ability of comprehension or with lesser ability of comprehension less a person? I think not. They are still as human as everyone else. Then why should a woman who isn't even inferior, but have different patterns and mechanisms of thinking,think herself inferior when reminded of this, and strongly reject the difference with all her might? This is a thing I never understood, thing I cannot understand. Can somebody, anybody explain me this? Because you're suggesting that the different patterns and thinking supposedly inherent to female behaviour is subjectively inferior to that of a male.
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Post by morsealworth on Aug 2, 2014 18:21:38 GMT
Not at all.
Being less intelligent in logical sense - that is, not using logic and using a heuristic shortcut instead- is clearly superior in ll and any less difficult and more typical tasks making both everyday life and most jobs way more efficient.
Not because it is more powerful of a tool, but other way round - it is fast, cheap in terms of resources and thus can be used much more often and achieve the same results with less liabilities, thus increasing the personal profits.
Did I also mention how useful manipulation is? It's one of the basements of our society!
I never thought and I think never will think of women as inferior - in fact, they have so much advantages I'd like to call it cheating knowing that they get it from birth and require less incentives to develop it as they like to talk, for example. And even their so-called "girls talk" is fundamentally different from male discussions.
Instead of logical intelligence which doesn't even bring results at all times (though it has a possibility of solving everything known) women have world's widest, most redundant, most powerful (and the least dependable because any of the nodes can put disinformation into the network just because she felt like it) information network in th world. Does that sound inferior to you? Not to me, at least.
And what do we men get instead by getting lateralization of cortex much earlier than women (Who are busy developing their reproductive system at the time - 9-12 years old. Very delicate work, here, and important as well)? Aggression, individual logic and ability to watch Cocky the running doctor without losing attention or getting a headache. Also, less dominance of emotions and overall higher tonus of CNS. Not much, but it's fair.
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Post by Monkeythumbz on Aug 2, 2014 18:37:07 GMT
*Yawn*
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