Debate thread

Do you just look for things to pick apart? 

Well, it is a FICTIONAL movie and show, using dramatic/poetic license to infer the Goa'uld's were Egyptian gods who built the pyramids. The specific character of Ba'al is not stated from Egypt itself, but is a Goa'uld lord. The one that does is the Ra Goa'uld from the main movie. He is actually on another planet , but does have a nifty pyramid of his own, so you can take whatever you want from that. Qetesh was btw an Egyptian fertility goddess and in SG, she was Ba'al's mate. It is also mentioned about the Egyptian gods being Goa'ulds but you would need to see in context to really understand. I think it was an awesome premise to make something so far fetched seem almost plausible. If you want to delve in, the names are stolen from many other cultures. 

stargate.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Goa%27uld

Unless you believe in water circles you can travel through wormholes to other worlds in, it is not meant be be to the letter of history, hence the terms based and fake. It is far from a documentary. Ba'al's character comes well into the story line after a few others with equally nifty sounding names. If they borrowed names from some other cultures it is only since their names were so dang cool sounding such as Cronus, Anubis and many other non RL Egyptian gods, that were Goa'lds. It is not meant to be a history lesson, but for sheer entertainment. I enjoy just watching stuff like Stargate, Star Trek, Farscape, BSG and even non Scifi(Fantasy) movies like LOTR and HP without over thinking how false much of it is, since they are fiction and that would suck the fun out of it. 

Dude, it is Science Fiction, if you like Scifi then you might like it or not. It was on the air for 17 seasons and had 3 movies. I highly recommend all but SG Universe. If you do not like Scifi, then you most likely won't but it also has humor and so many non Scifi fans also love it. All this being said, if you wish to just be snarky about it, I guess that is your loss. 

No, Yu don't forget!!!

And one less again.

You see, I don't mind use of mythology. But it always tick me of when they material used is researched only partially, on the surface. For example, I cringe almost every time I read stories of cards in Devil Maker.

Yes, I know that I look unreasonable from your viewpoint, but to me the world mythology is a very important treasure (historical, anthropological AND psychological) that people like that trample and destroy. And the part about trampling and destruction isn't just my subjective feeling, but an effect that stems from people like you not actually bothering to check the sources and pay no interest to them because you prefer to watch "just fiction, not a documentary or anything". And I can bet my fingers that The one who've seen everything has more win in it that all the SG series combined. But you will never bother reading it, because it's outside your everyday field of view (it may have entered it now, but I'm unsure if you will ever bother and whether you will hate it before starting because of what I wrote just in spite because I may have offended you).

And when they take those things and bring them into your FoV, they reach there so distorted and devoid of original rich imagery, it's less than a mere shadow of the original.

That's why I can't stand such mutilation. It's because of people who call Osiris .

I'm not qualified to comment on how badly they bastardised people's cultura heritage but surely we should be more concerned with whether or not it was a good story.

For me it was worth it just to see Angus McGyver in another TV series. Amazing. Plus there are limited good sci fi programnes and star gate is one of the best. Not that I'm a fan mind, just that I respected it and occasionally watched it.

Finally lets not let Star Trek off the hook for pillaging various cultures names and such.

Alright well if you don't like it don't watch it. I'm not offeded. It's still my favourite show.

Ugh, you're all posers. if you weren't actually there to see these things in person with your own eyes... just.. posers! <kidding>

oh btw, I like SG too.

Nah just put it in a sub thread bro becuase otherwise it would be untidy!

That Osiris 
What's your feeling on the Shin Megami Tensei series? My feeling is they do a fairly good job w/their research while still taking artistic liberties. (and what's "The one who've seen everything"? sounds like it's probably up my alley based on this conversation, but googling it returned zilch)

...and for the record, I've assumed this whole time that Ba'al was this Baal: 

Okay, NOW I'm offended.