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Post by mindless on May 21, 2015 10:38:36 GMT
Video is blocked in my country on copyright grounds. What you need is a VPN, Goto And download the Soft Ether VPN manager with VPNGate list This is a free and open source VPN manager. That will allow you to connect to open access VPN's in practically any country of your choice (there are no fee's or subscriptions, its entirely free to use). If you need advice on how to use it, just let me know, but its pretty easy to use, just follow the instructions on the download page.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2015 11:14:46 GMT
Its kind of funny but this whole debacle reminds me of the Kitchen Nightmares USA episode "Amy's Baking Company" (if you haven't seen it yet please do). Two companies who are spiralling into failure for their very different, yet somehow the same, PR ideals... Brilliant parallel. Amy resells packaged cakes from her "bakery" while 22cans resells microtransaction models from their "video game development studio".
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Post by Lord Ba'al on May 21, 2015 12:35:33 GMT
Video is blocked in my country on copyright grounds. What you need is a VPN, Goto And download the Soft Ether VPN manager with VPNGate list This is a free and open source VPN manager. That will allow you to connect to open access VPN's in practically any country of your choice (there are no fee's or subscriptions, its entirely free to use). If you need advice on how to use it, just let me know, but its pretty easy to use, just follow the instructions on the download page. Does it work on Android?
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Post by mindless on May 21, 2015 12:44:38 GMT
What you need is a VPN, Goto And download the Soft Ether VPN manager with VPNGate list This is a free and open source VPN manager. That will allow you to connect to open access VPN's in practically any country of your choice (there are no fee's or subscriptions, its entirely free to use). If you need advice on how to use it, just let me know, but its pretty easy to use, just follow the instructions on the download page. Does it work on Android? It's a windows based solution, Not sure if they offer it for other platforms ( though its open source, so its possibly been ported to other platforms, you'd need to check their site out to find out about that), I just assumed you were using windows. I'm sure android probably provides VPN solutions through the play store, though I've never used any of them so I can't advise on their efficacy.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2015 12:59:36 GMT
From what I can find, if the Android is 2.3 or newer then it should be able to connect to several types of VPNs on its own, though 4.2 is preferable for many features and compatibility with specific VPN apps
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 8:19:31 GMT
muir caught deleting what he doesn't want to see through bully moderation: steamcommunity.com/app/232810/discussions/0/620712999984612194/#c617336568082523095The topic is "IS this game still being worked on? Worth a buy?" You know, the one 22cans permabanned and libeled folks over. So with that in mind, time to take a look at the actual post: Is this game worth a buy...well, this clearly says that if you expect to really participate upon the forums and dare to point out the state of this gold brick, don't dare mention the questionable abuse of Steam users by 22cans' scorched earth policy else it will be turned upon you. Yet they complain about bullies when they have a couple of fine examples...
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Post by mindless on May 25, 2015 9:28:22 GMT
why do you keep referring to Godus as a golden brick. Gold implies a high level of value, wouldn't "S**t Brick" be a more appropriate word choice?
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 11:24:57 GMT
why do you keep referring to Godus as a golden brick. Gold implies a high level of value, wouldn't "S**t Brick" be a more appropriate word choice? "Gold brick" is a shortened form of "gold-painted brick" - a swindle, a scam. It also has applications in a work environment: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldbricking
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Post by mindless on May 25, 2015 11:33:34 GMT
Never heard that term before, guess its true what they say, you learn something new everyday.
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Post by tikigod on May 25, 2015 17:58:53 GMT
Out of curiosity, any ideas if the bans and extreme moderation actions are being green flagged by actual 22Cans Community staff (If there are actually any left?), or is it just the volunteer 'community reps' (Muir and co) just going on a bender and deciding their own policies because they're sick of spouting shit even they don't believe in at this point and have noticed 22Cans don't care either way so just ban/delete anything not up to new standards?
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 18:07:23 GMT
Out of curiosity, any ideas if the bans and extreme moderation actions are being green flagged by actual 22Cans Community staff (If there are actually any left?), or is it just the volunteer 'community reps' (Muir and co) just going on a bender and deciding their own policies because they're sick of spouting shit even they don't believe in at this point and have noticed 22Cans don't care either way so just ban/delete anything not up to new standards? I think it's safe to say Dave "mrdrpink" is aware of it, if not participating directly in the beaviour. If he isn't.. well, I suppose his failings far surpass his inability to appear busy based on the deceased dev updates. Beyond that... the only one that really seemed interested in engaging with the community (FuriousMoo) had his wrist slapped so hard he's rarely been seen on the forums since. I doubt any of the remaining Godus bound 22canners are interested in hearing about it, and I'm sure PM just thinks bullies be bullyin'. That said.. In regards to whether 22cans is paying attention to our little forum anymore? I'm sure Lord Ba'al can match up IP addresses pretty easily and tell who is visiting the forums on a regular basis, though I wouldn't expect any one of us to go so far as to ask him to break confidences.
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Post by Crumpy Six on May 25, 2015 18:12:05 GMT
Dave was the one who came here to justify the bans against Mindless, Hardly and Mandrake so I expect it was him who dealt them out.
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Post by hardly on May 25, 2015 23:17:54 GMT
Dave was the one who came here to justify the bans against Mindless, Hardly and Mandrake so I expect it was him who dealt them out. I've thought about this a bit and I think he was cleaning up. The ban notices were very unprofessional in how they were written. If Dave did write those it reflects very poorly on him both in the decision making process but also in terms of how he advised people of his decision.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 0:26:08 GMT
Out of curiosity, any ideas if the bans and extreme moderation actions are being green flagged by actual 22Cans Community staff (If there are actually any left?), or is it just the volunteer 'community reps' (Muir and co) just going on a bender and deciding their own policies because they're sick of spouting shit even they don't believe in at this point and have noticed 22Cans don't care either way so just ban/delete anything not up to new standards? At this point, 22cans probably wrote the playbook the moderators are being jobsworths over, considering that the moderators supposedly had a meeting with the team in March: www.22cans.com/daily-dev-activity-23rd-march-2015/There is a likelihood that 22cans just let the moderators do whatever they feel like for Dave to offer what could be at most charitably called a lazy cover excuse, while this matter has been brought to Dave's attention for him to essentially shirk it off (which I am again offering the opportunity for him to give explanation). 22cans have also allowed the moderators to say whatever they care to about the game's development without correction, even when the supposed producer wanders into the topic seemingly by accident and then forgets the topic exists shortly thereafter. Here is an interesting bit in context to this topic that shows this to be more like company policy as it has been going on for a long time. Monkeythumbz - Since you posted in a similar topic on behalf of 22cans about a year ago, around the same time Muir made this claim, I thought I would give you an opportunity to answer this: Who at 22cans decided these were "the Steam rules"? www.reddit.com/r/GODUS/comments/260mz8/steam_moderators_are_on_a_rampage/chmjbgaThis is the sort of rubbish that had muir misrepresenting poor moderation, forum whitewashing, customer abuse, bullying moderation, and 22cans' really crappy public policy as being Steam's policy and not 22cans trying to antagonise those they've lied to for money, pulled bait and switch upon Steam Early Access, etc.: Muir proudly claiming that his bullying moderation can be "lenient" even though he knows he's not enforcing by the real Steam posting rules.
steamcommunity.com/app/232810/discussions/0/558756256502511973/This was from over a year ago now, and it still appears still in effect given the delete+lie "moderation" they have been continuing to perform. Of course - like with anything else muir and Aynen moderate and lie about - the cited moderation reasons have NOTHING to do with the REAL Steam rules: support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4045-USHJ-3810That 22cans is blaming their customer abuse upon Steam is something that I am making definite note of - I just need to know who established this policy to make it easier upon VALVe's own investigation into the matter. Or it can look like 22cans' company policy and be handled appropriately in ways that may require Godus to find another digital distribution platform - libeling users is one thing, libeling the publisher over your own abuse of those users is a whole different matter. mrdrpink - Do you have any input you can offer about what appears to be 22cans' company policy? Your two company forum thugs are also invited to offer an explanation on why they are clearly moderating upon false rules to antagonise users over, along with an opportunity to offer their own explanation for libeling Steam and VALVe on behalf of your company. Side Note: 22cans might need to have the hamster running on their server's wheel replaced, as the current one appears it can no longer handle daily server load.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 1:34:12 GMT
Out of curiosity, any ideas if the bans and extreme moderation actions are being green flagged by actual 22Cans Community staff (If there are actually any left?), or is it just the volunteer 'community reps' (Muir and co) just going on a bender and deciding their own policies because they're sick of spouting shit even they don't believe in at this point and have noticed 22Cans don't care either way so just ban/delete anything not up to new standards? <snip> This is the sort of rubbish that has muir misrepresenting poor moderation, forum whitewashing, customer abuse, bullying moderation, and 22cans' really crappy public policy as being Steam's policy and not 22cans trying to antagonise those they've lied to for money, pulled bait and switch upon Steam Early Access, etc.: Muir proudly claiming that his bullying moderation can be "lenient" even though he knows he's not enforcing by the real Steam posting rules. <snip> How wonderful that Muir continues to remind us of his lack of professionalism and continued abuse of hyperbole. *sigh. #playthatvictimthough
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Post by hardly on May 26, 2015 4:22:33 GMT
Although I find the moderation practice overall to be repellent I do think it's a bit misleading to post that post from Muir as it's quite old and could give people the mistaken impression he made those comments recently.
I find Muir seems to go through bad periods. He is quite young and he probably just needs someone to mentor him.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 4:41:02 GMT
Although I find the moderation practice overall to be repellent I do think it's a bit misleading to post that post from Muir as it's quite old and could give people the mistaken impression he made those comments recently. Fair enough, though it should be noted that the date is right in the screenshot - I have since updated that post to explain more about the reason why it was included. I included these two examples for context, from both Muir and Monkeythumbz, of what appears to be 22cans' policy that still seems to be in effect after a year of this being brought to 22cans' attention. I am also interested on how far up the "don't give a damn" extends to as 22cans potentially ruins a publishing deal through gross incompetence or deliberate abuse. I am trying to figure if this nonsense about "the Steam rules" is simply 22cans' company policy or if it is leftovers from previous uses (as in, it was originally just a guide), possibly misunderstood or warped by those who have taken their place (the guide becomes the tenets of a forum police state). This is the fellow 22cans picked to be their moderator and still retains, even after over a year of these antics? From what I've seen, it looks like 22cans picked a couple of disposable and insecure chumps to rule over their forums with iron fists, to be thrown away once they have outlived their usefulness or could be drawn in for more of the same to whitewash The Trail's forums. It would then remain to be seen if 22cans could learn the simple lesson that Keen Software House did...or just go for more apparent reputation suicide in status quo.
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Post by hardly on May 26, 2015 5:09:50 GMT
Muir isn't a good pick unless you invest in mentoring him and they clearly haven't. It's been suggested Muir and Aynen were picked because of familial connections to 22cans but I have no idea of that is true or not.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 5:41:14 GMT
Although I find the moderation practice overall to be repellent I do think it's a bit misleading to post that post from Muir as it's quite old and could give people the mistaken impression he made those comments recently. I find Muir seems to go through bad periods. He is quite young and he probably just needs someone to mentor him. Oh dear. I hadn't noticed the 2014 tag. My mistake.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 5:45:05 GMT
Muir isn't a good pick unless you invest in mentoring him and they clearly haven't. It's been suggested Muir and Aynen were picked because of familial connections to 22cans but I have no idea of that is true or not. I can't think of any other reason, other than possibly sending in 12 empty crisp packets and you've got the job. That post was also to show how 22cans will allow Muir to make intimidating statements directed at their forum's users, that intimidation being more like bullying than what they claimed of others. The insecure comment above isn't an unfair attack on them in the least - it is a description of how they'll continue to delete posts that might be unflattering to Godus but attacks their Precious, then proceed to lie about the reasons behind the deletion to deliberately antagonise and abuse the ones they are lying about. They both have been caught at this, along with trying to pass off some deletions as being from "Steam Community Moderators" - failing to note that Steam Community Moderators DO NOT moderate according to the guide 22cans has been using to bully their own customers into not speaking about refunds and more.
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