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Post by Deth on Jun 1, 2015 11:52:51 GMT
I am of the mind now that until he proves himself, I am sorry, I will hold my enthusiasm. We have seen this before and we all know what has happened before.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 15:54:30 GMT
Imo some goodwill needs to go both ways here, and this might be the time to strike while the iron is hot. We've heard lots of talking in the past, but being a new CEO and all, Simon may just have the ability to make meaningful changes within the company and community in unison. I'm willing to give him a chance. He's our best hope for Godus actually becoming some semblance of its Kickstarter promises.
At the very least he appears to be showing interest here, where Peter never has.
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Jun 1, 2015 16:13:29 GMT
Hear hear. Maybe he can get Peter to join.
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Post by simon22cans on Jun 1, 2015 16:16:28 GMT
Hear hear. Maybe he can get Peter to join. Stranger things have happened. (I doubt this will happen)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 16:23:02 GMT
Hear hear. Maybe he can get Peter to join. Stranger things have happened. (I doubt this will happen) Agreed. At this point i don't personally feel it's necessary nor a wise idea. It sounds like he's where he needs to be now.
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Post by mindless on Jun 1, 2015 16:37:22 GMT
I suspect the arrival of PM on the forums would immediately result in Lord Ba'al being forced to implement martial law, and borrow the ban users on rage posting approach made famous elsewhere on the internets.
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Post by earlparvisjam on Jun 4, 2015 0:14:11 GMT
Imo some goodwill needs to go both ways here, and this might be the time to strike while the iron is hot. We've heard lots of talking in the past, but being a new CEO and all, Simon may just have the ability to make meaningful changes within the company and community in unison. I'm willing to give him a chance. He's our best hope for Godus actually becoming some semblance of its Kickstarter promises. At the very least he appears to be showing interest here, where Peter never has. We heard this exact same sort of thing when Konrad came on. Like then, I just can't bring myself to repeat the same mistake again. PM was out of the picture then, until we read between the lines that he wasn't. All we're seeing is a new hand being dealt. We're still collecting stickers and opening randomized chests.
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Post by hardly on Jun 4, 2015 0:20:49 GMT
Imo some goodwill needs to go both ways here, and this might be the time to strike while the iron is hot. We've heard lots of talking in the past, but being a new CEO and all, Simon may just have the ability to make meaningful changes within the company and community in unison. I'm willing to give him a chance. He's our best hope for Godus actually becoming some semblance of its Kickstarter promises. At the very least he appears to be showing interest here, where Peter never has. We heard this exact same sort of thing when Konrad came on. Like then, I just can't bring myself to repeat the same mistake again. PM was out of the picture then, until we read between the lines that he wasn't. All we're seeing is a new hand being dealt. We're still collecting stickers and opening randomized chests. Changing the development direction of GODUS is a big ask, investigating the banning of several customers requires only reading 4 or so pages of a thread on steam and demonstrating your good judgement. This is a great test for Simon and one I'm happy to allow reasonable time to complete. If he fails said test (can't justify bans but doesn't rescind them and apologise" then there will be plenty of time to discuss that and by discuss that I mean complain about the injustice.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 0:42:07 GMT
Imo some goodwill needs to go both ways here, and this might be the time to strike while the iron is hot. We've heard lots of talking in the past, but being a new CEO and all, Simon may just have the ability to make meaningful changes within the company and community in unison. I'm willing to give him a chance. He's our best hope for Godus actually becoming some semblance of its Kickstarter promises. At the very least he appears to be showing interest here, where Peter never has. We heard this exact same sort of thing when Konrad came on. Like then, I just can't bring myself to repeat the same mistake again. PM was out of the picture then, until we read between the lines that he wasn't. All we're seeing is a new hand being dealt. We're still collecting stickers and opening randomized chests. I'm willing to at least give Simon a chance since he: A. Engaged us here on this forum. B. Is in a position (hopefully) to make important decisions independent and contrary to Molyneux and his baffling decline into self inflicted Armageddon. C. He's not afraid to be cheeky and blunt (so far) with us, which is refreshing. The way I see it, we as Godus fans/backers/bird watchers/basket weavers potentially have quite a bit to gain and not much else to lose with this "reboot" riding on the back and reputation of the new CEO. Thus far he doesn't strike me as a man that wants to go down in PR flames on the 22cans fantasy zeppelin like Molyneux did. Time will tell.
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Post by 13thGeneral on Jun 4, 2015 1:49:58 GMT
That reminds me - remember that offer Peter made to all the Backers, Early Access, and doubter folks? I wonder if I requested a personal tour of 22Cans, if/when we visit the UK, if it would be granted...
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Post by hardly on Jun 4, 2015 2:11:22 GMT
That reminds me - remember that offer Peter made to all the Backers, Early Access, and doubter folks? I wonder if I requested request a personal tour of 22Cans, if/when we visit the UK, if it would be granted... A convention would be awesome but I could never go, oh the tyranny of distance.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 2:16:02 GMT
That reminds me - remember that offer Peter made to all the Backers, Early Access, and doubter folks? I wonder if I requested request a personal tour of 22Cans, if/when we visit the UK, if it would be granted... Well.. if the God of Gods' visit to the Cannery was any measure... I doubt you'd miss much if they denied you a visit.
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Post by tikigod on Jun 4, 2015 2:44:58 GMT
That reminds me - remember that offer Peter made to all the Backers, Early Access, and doubter folks? I wonder if I requested request a personal tour of 22Cans, if/when we visit the UK, if it would be granted... I've wondered that myself, would be interesting to have a proper Q&A about the state of the game and what may or may not change. I live in the South West and whilst it's only a 2 hour trip (give or take) to Guildford it's still quite a cost and not convinced anything would really come of it, especially now that 22Cans seem very Trail focused and there are even more indicators now that the main motivation behind the company is maximising income over all else rather than having a true motivation to drive their concepts forward. So if it's making money, but crude and a empty shell of what it could be. That's would be classed as win. Any question of further significant development is frowned upon as why do it if it's going to change the income/investment ratio? And not sure I'd really be able to put myself through hearing another developer talk like that directly. It's the complete polar opposite of what I feel the industry needs and what can increase the quality of what's on offer to benefit everyone involved. There's another company I had indirect dealings with that functioned like that called Gazillion Entainment, and seeing how toxic their influence can be at the cost of entire studios, jobs and abandoning projects those working on feel deeply about because it's not in the interests of maximised profits, wouldn't want to be in the same room as a scaled down version of that.
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Jun 4, 2015 10:33:36 GMT
When I was in london a year ago I met George and Jack. George did not offer me but did ask if I'd be interested in a visit to 22cans. I told him I would not because I did not like the prospect of meeting Peter.
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Post by Deth on Jun 4, 2015 11:55:51 GMT
I will give it to him that he has seem to removed the ban from talking on this forum. Nothing of substance has come of it yet but I do believe it is a good step forward to let them post on here, even if it is just fluff community building type post. But these post still reinforce to me that the rank and file canners are good guys just trying to make a living and that the problem is more at the top, not that I mean you Simon.
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Post by mindless on Jun 5, 2015 16:24:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2015 19:06:19 GMT
I'm back online, Cheers @ simon My previous posts have not been restored though which is unfortunate, I hope this is just an oversight and that they will indeed be restored? Well, next time, they'll shut you down the electricty.
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Post by tikigod on Jun 5, 2015 19:11:54 GMT
Good to see someone got back on at least.
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Post by hardly on Jun 5, 2015 20:14:55 GMT
I've just got up. Technically I'm still banned but I have an offer in my message box from Simon offering to rescind that ban. I'm assuming you are in a similar position Tikigod.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2015 20:24:22 GMT
Yet another reason to give Simon the benefit of a doubt. He seems to be, at least on the surface, steering the company back on course where the community is concerned.
I count this as a win for everyone.
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