Lord Ba'al
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Jan 18, 2016 17:17:51 GMT
Indeed, good job. From what I've read over the course of this thread from the beginning, your husband seems to have far more trouble keeping with the deal than you. You should be aware of this and beware to not let him drag you down with him into the stenchy swamps of alcoholical doom. Okay I laid that on thick in an attempt of comic relief, but it is a real pitfal and you managed to avoid it nicely. This is the reason why I thought you might have been better off attempting it on your own. Once your husband sees that you managed to be strong and do it, he might be able to do a better job of it himself. After all, which man would want to be weaker willed than their missus. By the way, if it helps any, my total alcohol intake this year to date is 1 beer. I think that was on January second. Not that I'm officially participating in your dry month.
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Post by hardly on Jan 18, 2016 18:10:25 GMT
Thanks all This experiment has been a learning experience if nothing else. Sunday 17th JanuaryThere were a few challenges today: firstly, we hosted an extended board games session (2pm til midnight) including a few people we don't know that well. Secondly, having had a few drinks the day before I wasn't sure if cravings would come back. Thirdly, my husband wanted to extend 'cheat day' to include the whole weekend. His reasoning was that our guests might bring booze, or we might need to open a bottle of wine for them. Here's how it worked out: 1. These guys are cool and were completely unconcerned about whether we drank or not. 2. I did start craving beer in the evening, but it went away. I drank about 4 non-alcoholic beers over the course of the evening. 3. We opened a bottle of wine so our friend could have a glass, and my husband drank the rest of it. Normally if one of us breaks the other does too. This is one of the very rare occasions where he's had a drink and I haven't. It's actually better if he cheats and you resist since it shows even more willpower on your behalf. Well done, would have been easy to backslide here.
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Post by Crumpy Six on Jan 19, 2016 14:58:35 GMT
Indeed, good job. From what I've read over the course of this thread from the beginning, your husband seems to have far more trouble keeping with the deal than you. You should be aware of this and beware to not let him drag you down with him into the stenchy swamps of alcoholical doom. Okay I laid that on thick in an attempt of comic relief, but it is a real pitfal and you managed to avoid it nicely. This is the reason why I thought you might have been better off attempting it on your own. Once your husband sees that you managed to be strong and do it, he might be able to do a better job of it himself. After all, which man would want to be weaker willed than their missus. By the way, if it helps any, my total alcohol intake this year to date is 1 beer. I think that was on January second. Not that I'm officially participating in your dry month. How much would you normally drink? Assuming some deliberate effort is taking place, congratulations on your self-discipline I think it's true that my husband and I have different levels of commitment to Dry January. It's always him who suggests breaking the rules, and me who says no. But to his credit, Sunday is the only day where he hasn't joined me in abstaining. And he'd already lined that up as a potential Cheat day, so I don't know if he counts it as a slip. I wouldn't judge him if he decided to scrap the whole thing to be honest, as long as he didn't then pressure me into drinking with him (which I don't think he would). Monday 18th JanuaryDespite a chronic case of Can't Be Arsed, we dragged ourselves to the boxing gym after work. I had hardly any energy and kept failing at the circuits. I don't know if this is linked to drinking on Cheat day. I don't feel like I ever really caught up on the bad sleep I got on Saturday night, so maybe that had something to do with it. Three pints doesn't feel like enough to have had an impact, but if it is then the benefits of not drinking are greater than I realised. The Cambridge Winter Ale festival begins on Thursday. Our friend is going, but we'll give it a miss.
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Post by Crumpy Six on Jan 22, 2016 12:15:18 GMT
Tuesday 19th January
I stayed late at work today then met my husband at the cinema to see Creed. He was driving, and we went to Five Guys instead of a resturant for dinner, so no occasion to drink. Despite the cinema now advertising "local ales" in bright lights, which is quite alluring. We always try to time our arrival at the cinema such that we minimise how long we wait in the foyer, as we both have impulse-control problems when stood around staring at bags of sweets. Beer is just one more temptation to avoid.
Wednesday 20th January
Another gym night tonight. Boxing twice a week feels great so we're going to try to keep it up this year. Gym nights preclude alcohol, so right away that will mean two alcohol-free nights each week. This doesn't sound like much, but once you're in the habit of drinking daily it makes a big difference.
Thursday 21st January
We had no plans tonight. I can tell something is still up with my husband, but he's getting better at hiding it from me (or thinks he is, anyway). I don't believe his unhappiness is related to alcohol, but honestly, I do wonder if towards the end of last year, drinking in the evenings may have become a coping mechanism. It's getting much easier to resist drinking now because both the habit and cravings have been mostly broken, but on evenings like this where we have no distractions, it does suddenly start to look appealing again.
Anecdotes from elsewhere
When I was at my friend's brithday last weekend, she said she would never commit to doing a dry month simply because she knew she couldn't do it. She doesn't consider herself an alcoholic, but she gets such enjoyment from going to the pub with her boyfriend after work most nights, she sees no reason to deprive herself. Much like me, she is a habitual drinker.
I previously mentioned a colleague at work who is doing Reduced Alcohol January, which entails two alcohol-free days each week. She and her husband have not particularly stuck to this, but, she told me, they are doing quite well. For example, Tuesday was supposd to be alcohol-free, and while they failed, they only had half a bottle of wine each plus a couple of beers. That surprised me. For my husband and I, a couple of beers plus half a bottle of wine is what I would consider a heavy-drinking night. Tunrs out my colleague and her husband would typically get through a bottle of wine each.
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Lord Ba'al
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Posts: 6,260
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I like: Cats; single malt Scotch; Stargate; Amiga; fried potatoes; retro gaming; cheese; snickers; sticky tape.
I don't like: Dimples in the bottom of scotch bottles; Facebook games masquerading as godgames.
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Jan 22, 2016 13:41:52 GMT
You said not drinking for two nights a week is making a big difference. Not too long ago you said dry January doesn't appear to be making any difference. Were you referencing different things or have you had a change in your point of view?
Still only on one beer for the year myself.
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Post by Crumpy Six on Jan 22, 2016 14:14:00 GMT
What I mean is, if I consistently have two alcohol-free days each week, this will add up over the course of a year. A month isn't long enough to recognise long-term benefits of abstaining, but I'm sure having a few alcohol-free days each week would be a significant improvement over drinking literally every single night (which is always a risk when things become habitual).
Right now, as my 'dry' months have shown me, my drinking pattern is chaotic. Some weeks I'll drink on 3 or 4 days, and others I'll drink every day. By December I was drinking much more frequently. Dry January has an obvious benefit here, cheat days or not: it has broken the habit of daily drinking.
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Post by hardly on Jan 22, 2016 19:23:08 GMT
What I mean is, if I consistently have two alcohol-free days each week, this will add up over the course of a year. A month isn't long enough to recognise long-term benefits of abstaining, but I'm sure having a few alcohol-free days each week would be a significant improvement over drinking literally every single night (which is always a risk when things become habitual). Right now, as my 'dry' months have shown me, my drinking pattern is chaotic. Some weeks I'll drink on 3 or 4 days, and others I'll drink every day. By December I was drinking much more frequently. Dry January has an obvious benefit here, cheat days or not: it has broken the habit of daily drinking. It seems like you feel a lot more confident not drinking as compared to some of the people you mention who are still in the mindset that they can't have fun not drinking. I think this is half the battle. Also it's great you are seeing real benefits from not drinking. How is the bank balance? Do you think you are saving money?
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Post by Crumpy Six on Jan 25, 2016 13:43:49 GMT
Friday 22nd January (cheat day)I had some internal debate over whether to make this day an exception or not, after not feeling great about my earlier cheat day. I decided to allow it. We visited my parents and went to their local ale pub. I had three half-pints, which was enough for me to enjoy myself and share the beer-tasting experience with my family, but not enough for me to feel tired, queasy or 'drunk'. After the pub we went to an Indian restaurant. My dad and my husband continued drinking lager, but I stopped at this point. I also turned down the glass of port my dad offered after we got home. This may sound like a failure, but for me it feels like a success. It's difficult to moderate my drinking when I'm with my parents, because they themselves drink so heavily, and drinking is a central part of their evenings. Being able to participate and enjoy it with them without drinking in excess feels good. I also learned from my last cheat day that just because I've given myself a 'day off' doesn't mean it's a good idea to drink to my limit. In fact, I probably need to re-assess what I previously considered to be my upper limit. Saturday 23rd JanuaryMy cousin's 9th brithday party in Brimingham. There were a few kids and a lot of adults, and lagers circulating for the grown-ups. We stuck to J2Os. This was no occasion for heavy drinking so there was no social pressure. Sunday 24th January
We had people round today from lunchtime til almost midnight. Again, we had a guest who requested a glass of wine, and again, my husband opened a bottle and shared it with her. Later in the evening, I went to get a couple of Becks Blues out of the fridge and my husband said what he really wanted was a proper beer. I asked him if I should get him an ale instead. He hesitated, then said it was up to me. So he ended up with a Becks Blue. My husband has now had 4 'cheat' days, and I've had 2. For me there are no more cheat days scheduled, so if any turn up it is officially a slip. What I mean is, if I consistently have two alcohol-free days each week, this will add up over the course of a year. A month isn't long enough to recognise long-term benefits of abstaining, but I'm sure having a few alcohol-free days each week would be a significant improvement over drinking literally every single night (which is always a risk when things become habitual). Right now, as my 'dry' months have shown me, my drinking pattern is chaotic. Some weeks I'll drink on 3 or 4 days, and others I'll drink every day. By December I was drinking much more frequently. Dry January has an obvious benefit here, cheat days or not: it has broken the habit of daily drinking. It seems like you feel a lot more confident not drinking as compared to some of the people you mention who are still in the mindset that they can't have fun not drinking. I think this is half the battle. Also it's great you are seeing real benefits from not drinking. How is the bank balance? Do you think you are saving money? We are definitely saving money. It's difficult to quantify exactly how much, but I think we must easily spend upwards of £200 a month on alcohol (factoring in grocery shopping, drinking out in pubs/restaurants and our quarterly wine club).
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Post by Crumpy Six on Jan 26, 2016 12:02:27 GMT
Monday 25th JanuaryWe were meant to go to the gym today, but my husband didn't feel like it and wanted to stay in and do some woodwork instead. I need to either get myself a hobby, or motivate myself to go to the gym on days when my husband isn't up for it. We got through loads of Beck Blue but no alcoholic drinks. We're keen to try an alcohol-free beer brewed by Brewdog called Nanny State. My husband read a very positive review on the Guardian, but our nearest supermarkets don't stock it so we've ordered a case online from the brewer. We ordered a box of 24: 12 Nanny States and a selection of 12 of their regular beers, in anticipation of the Dry spell coming to an end. Monday morning at work, I was catching up with my colleagues about the weekend and 3 of them recounted unhappy experiences with alcohol. - 1 colleague drank way too much on Sunday night and felt rotten on Monday morning.
- 1 colleague drank way too much on Saturday night. She spent most of Sunday in bed, too hungover to do much else. She also upset someone by flirting with their boyfriend.
- 1 colleague also drank way too much on Saturday and had a huge argument with her boyfriend over something trivial. She had since apologised, but continues to feel bad about it.
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Lord Ba'al
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Posts: 6,260
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I like: Cats; single malt Scotch; Stargate; Amiga; fried potatoes; retro gaming; cheese; snickers; sticky tape.
I don't like: Dimples in the bottom of scotch bottles; Facebook games masquerading as godgames.
Steam: stonelesscutter
GOG: stonelesscutter
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Jan 26, 2016 14:01:15 GMT
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Post by Qetesh on Jan 26, 2016 21:30:33 GMT
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Post by hardly on Jan 27, 2016 1:36:52 GMT
I was really looking forward to this response.
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Lord Ba'al
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Posts: 6,260
Pledge level: Half a Partner
I like: Cats; single malt Scotch; Stargate; Amiga; fried potatoes; retro gaming; cheese; snickers; sticky tape.
I don't like: Dimples in the bottom of scotch bottles; Facebook games masquerading as godgames.
Steam: stonelesscutter
GOG: stonelesscutter
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Jan 27, 2016 2:22:53 GMT
I was really looking forward to this response. She wasn't like that before she met me.
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Post by hardly on Jan 27, 2016 5:40:08 GMT
I was really looking forward to this response. She wasn't like that before she met me. Sweary?
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Post by Crumpy Six on Jan 27, 2016 11:09:03 GMT
Every regular drinker carries with them an anthology of regrettable drunken incidents. Getting in fights, saying dumb stuff, text messages and phone calls to people they shouldn't contact, accidents and illnesses, embarrassing situations and romantic/sexual encounters that have good reason for not happening when everyone is sober.
There are happy, joyful memories too. But these don't prey on the mind in quite the same way.
Tuesday 26th January
We went to the cinema to see The Revenant. Turns out the lobby bar doesn't just sell delicious local ale - it has it on 2-for-1 special offer! Anyway, there was no drinking incident today.
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Lord Ba'al
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Posts: 6,260
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I like: Cats; single malt Scotch; Stargate; Amiga; fried potatoes; retro gaming; cheese; snickers; sticky tape.
I don't like: Dimples in the bottom of scotch bottles; Facebook games masquerading as godgames.
Steam: stonelesscutter
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Jan 27, 2016 11:23:39 GMT
Still only had one beer. But I have a feeling I may drink something today.
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Lord Ba'al
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I like: Cats; single malt Scotch; Stargate; Amiga; fried potatoes; retro gaming; cheese; snickers; sticky tape.
I don't like: Dimples in the bottom of scotch bottles; Facebook games masquerading as godgames.
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Jan 27, 2016 17:50:45 GMT
I'm having my first alcohol since that one beer. It's a Redbreast.
That went down fast. Tiny glasses.
Onwards to a Glenmorangie. A double this time.
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Post by Crumpy Six on Jan 27, 2016 19:11:10 GMT
Heavy day, Ba'al? Mine has been. We're going to miss our reporting deadlines at work and I should have stayed late, but I needed to get to the gym tonight having failed to go on Monday. Flat battery in my car and flat tyre on my bike left me with a 3 mile walk home from the office. Now we won't make boxing class anyway.
Luckily our Brewdog Nanny State has arrived, and it's pretty nice, but I would love some wine right now...
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Lord Ba'al
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Posts: 6,260
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I like: Cats; single malt Scotch; Stargate; Amiga; fried potatoes; retro gaming; cheese; snickers; sticky tape.
I don't like: Dimples in the bottom of scotch bottles; Facebook games masquerading as godgames.
Steam: stonelesscutter
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Jan 27, 2016 19:43:22 GMT
It's not a heavy day. Well at least not in the sense you mean it. We're out celebrating our 1 year wedding anniversary. Yay!
I ran out of internet credit for my phone so I couldn't keep you guys up to date with my booze, but now I'm on the wifi.
After my double Glenmorangie I had a Laphroaig. Then we left there and now we're at the restaurant. Had one coke and am now on a (disappointing) red wine.
Grub's here!
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Post by morsealworth on Jan 27, 2016 20:20:55 GMT
You know what?
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