steam/ 22 cons moderation

I wonder if 22cans will learn the hard way that their rubbish bans can be in-game screenshotted using the Steam overlay and then posted into the game's community screenshot gallery...

I've a feeling they will learn the results of their dishonesty soon.

I wonder if it will ever occur to them that February was harsh, but probably nothing like what they'll receive for a completely bogus Godus that still has no hope soon of becoming anything of what they've ever pitched, and their silence while running off to play in the grass has most definitely been noted by even more journalistic outlets than who printed stories before.  It will definitely be noted by those who tried to defend Peter and 22cans - as will the size of the development team and heaps of disappointment layered again upon the title, though we're to expect some miracle about the PC version that has been dangled around for a while.  I hope it appears before the upcoming anniversary of Clickbait: What Wasn't in the Box.

That's why I've been pressing for certain bits of information, some a bit persistently because a straight answer was hardly forthcoming or even addressed.  Finally, when they are, I've been offered assurances and teasing hints with little merit to prove that at the current pace of development - again primarily because of the few number of people working upon the title and not for any real fault of their personal efforts - is going to be anything like what Peter last said, or if this game is going to languish in dev hell as they cannot offer a clear answer if there ever will be a "Clan of Clans" "God of Gods".

By all this, it shows several distressing points;  One, the management is either clearly out of touch with their community or they simply don't care; Two, those who are interacting with 22cans' customers are making an even bigger mess upon previous by hiding disfavourable topics under forum restructuring and an absolute disdain for anything resembling customer service; Thee, the number of people shown working upon Godus (compared to the number there at the company) directly shows how much care 22cans has to offer towards interacting with their customers.

A pity all that kind of rubbishes the otherwise excellent efforts of the developers who have tried to be honest, the QA and technical support who have been eager and extremely helpful, and the elephant in the room of a history of clearly better titles from those whose legendary status was supposed to sell this game.

I'm not a journo, I just trade information to them - which I have been quite open about and disclosed from the start of posting upon the Steam forum.  

I sometimes mention a friend that watched this whole mess, who basically dragged me to it since they were drawn in when I wishlisted the title*.

Merely covering the antics and PR suicide burnt them out.  They refuse to speak of it again.  

(I don't think they'll have anything nice to say about 22cans' business or products from this point on...)

Now that I cannot unsee this trainwreck, I can't forget how it seems like an ultimate betrayal of everything we expected from a Peter Molyneux title.  Sure, some claims are completely outlandish, but it's the repetition along with shutting out the community except to use paying customers as an absurdly-narrow-focused and barely-influential think tank to figure out anything to do with their game...but of course 22cans has no plans after combat and multiplayer, can't focus upon anything else, but supposedly there's been some PC content developed in there somewhere.  Which means that their current development will eventually be changed back (more) to mobile in order to add those features in, if they haven't already been.

I guess the "story" might be done and over with, unless 22cans gets back to it after multiplayer.

* - As a result, I have Aliens: Colonial Marines as my #1 wishlisted title as a joke and to note that list isn't to be taken too seriously, since I was using the system at the time to watch games before that feature existed.  Gag-gifting bad games has become a hobby, and I have a feeling that a lot of people got bogus Godus as one of these.  It certainly does come across as a slightly more asinine version of Miner Wars 2081 and as much of a one-trick pony.

In case this goes south, here's our newest resident troll attacking the community with no moderators in site:


Which I'm responding with this (posted here in case this gets deleted or something equally absurd):



We'll see if the moderators continue to avoid the thread, actually slap the troll, or come at me and once again show how hypocritical they are. 

Honestly, from reading those threads I don't get the impression Muir or Aynen like or support FraggleRock. He's not the kind of guy you want fighting your corner. Even a person who likes Godus and is sympathetic to 22Cans wouldn't want to be associated with such a smarmy, snide individual. I imagine he will get temp-banned before too long if he keeps up the baiting and unpleasantness.

As someone who does not own the game but has been following it since the kickstarter...

I feel for all of you guys. For me my daily visit to the Godus forums (both here and on Steam) is just both the fascination of watching a train wreck itself repeatedly and also to mine the comedy gold that our friendly Steam mods dole out so generously.

So, just so you know, the current situation -is- watched from the outside. Keep fighting the good fight!

One of whom I spoke with yesterday and who basically told me that they can't/won't do anything about them, as well as that the game in no way violates steams rules and I should really just bend over because valve already has my money.

The reports are visible to any moderator, 22cans or Steam Community Moderators, along with the game's developers.  VALVe will sometimes bring in their own moderators when a developer's own forums become a mess or have reports of abuse from the developers/developer moderators.

The problem is that to initiate that kind of thing, you don't go directly through the Steam Community Moderators, you have to open a ticket into the notoriously undermanned Steam Support area.

Yes, VALVe will tell you that a developer is allowed to turn their own Steam-hosted forum into a steaming pile of feces so that it will in turn ruin the developer's reputation and ability to sell games, but that is where you point out that 22cans is blaming VALVe's "Steam rules" for their craptacular moderation and abuse, misrepresenting the abuse as being from VALVe.

Then VALVe gets a bit more interested.  

I don't think it would have made any difference if you had said it, its obvious they are aware of the Godus situation, and its also obvious that they don't give 2 shits about how much of a scam it is. Godus is actually quite a feature complete game (yuck, I just made myself sick in my mouth) when lined up against some of the other games that are up on steam early access. e.g. Grass Simulator



So its no wonder they will tolerate Godus, when they apparently also permit shit like this. There is no help to be found here because steam are scamming you in just the same way that 22 cans are. Except steam are one step removed, so theirs is the smarter scam, they don't take direct blame, but they still take your money.

mindless - and strangely Grass Simulator is more honestly marketed than Godus, one being quite honest about being a complete piss-take.

Grass Simulator is basically the video game version of YouTube Poop.

It also has more positive reviews.

GS: 45% / 238 vs Godus: 35% / 4669

Steam Store:
Grass Simulator Release Date: Apr 1, 2015

Google Play:
Godus
DeNA Corp. - April 1, 2015

/tinfoilhat

It's basically like one of those quirky levels for Quake, and looks like a developer's starter effort. I'm still not quite sure what Godus is supposed to be, eventually. When do they plan on finishing the content?

1. Combat
2. Multiplayer
3. ? ? ?
4. PROFIT!