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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 22:35:24 GMT
I'm a ZX spectrum kid, who later went on to the Amiga (skipped over the Atari ST), I have fond memories of that bygone age. Anything that would make me reminisce and become sentimental is welcome.  Hands up who remembers this little beauty raises hands. I remember that one. I was totally addicted to that for a while and then suddenly from one moment to the next it stopped working. Never got it to work again. Aaargh! I'm sensing a pattern... |
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Post by 13thGeneral on May 30, 2015 1:39:53 GMT
I'm a ZX spectrum kid, who later went on to the Amiga (skipped over the Atari ST), I have fond memories of that bygone age. Anything that would make me reminisce and become sentimental is welcome. Hands up who remembers this little beauty raises hands. I remember that one. I was totally addicted to that for a while and then suddenly from one moment to the next it stopped working. Never got it to work again. Aaargh! I never finished ToeJam & Earl on the Sega Genesis because it bugged out on me. I actually still have it, console and all, over on the media shelf taunting me. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 5:41:58 GMT
This article seems to be written, part and parcel, for studios like 22cans. Lost in the distribution drive, it seems they've forgotten that they are, in fact, in the entertainment business... not in the, how Molyneux so delicately put it, (paraphrasing) "raping of freemium whales" business. techcrunch.com/2015/05/31/incremental-design/
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Post by hardly on Jun 1, 2015 7:22:14 GMT
This article seems to be written, part and parcel, for studios like 22cans. Lost in the distribution drive, it seems they've forgotten that they are, in fact, in the entertainment business... not in the, how Molyneux so delicately put it, (paraphrasing) "raping of freemium whales" business. techcrunch.com/2015/05/31/incremental-design/ Indeed. First of all I think Peter was envious of Zygna, King, etc and wanted that level of financial success. Then they lost any semblance of direction as they lurched from release to release and fire to fire. The article does miss EA as an enduring company that suffers from a focus on optimisation/distribution. Of course I think they have burned through a fair bit of IP along the way. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 16:28:43 GMT
They've taken the time to document their people reboot on the website. www.22cans.com/about-us/Can't put my finger on it but aren't we missing a person or two? SFX guy? New audio guy? Maybe they left a while ago and I missed it. Also, if it's accurate... while PM is listed as Creative.. Konrad is the only Designer listed. Interesting... |
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Post by bed on Jun 25, 2015 10:37:58 GMT
I'm a ZX spectrum kid, who later went on to the Amiga (skipped over the Atari ST), I have fond memories of that bygone age. Anything that would make me reminisce and become sentimental is welcome. Hands up who remembers this little beauty hell yes! Fond memories on my old Amiga 1000!! |
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Post by Spiderweb on Jun 26, 2015 13:51:06 GMT
Misleading marketing? I just watched the godus clip on steam store video, it has champions in it and voyages display, also mentions guiding your people through ages, none of those are is the current release are they? Or is there still 1 voyage if you restart? cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/2029244/movie480.webm?t=1407754202Then again I suppose its made to sell the game much as trailers sometimes only show the best bits to sell movie tickets. And the spaceman as someone pointed out...  |
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Post by Roumsen on Jun 27, 2015 9:12:34 GMT
So, the timeline is still just a flat and boringly ordinary .... line. *sigh* That's really sad.
Sorry if this is completely out of place but, jesus christ, 22cans. Why do you guys keep the most important thing sooo simple? As flat as the mobile devices?
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Jun 27, 2015 10:04:38 GMT
So, the timeline is still just a flat and boringly ordinary .... line. *sigh* That's really sad. Sorry if this is completely out of place but, jesus christ, 22cans. Why do you guys keep the most important thing sooo simple? As flat as the mobile devices? Well... you don't necessarily have to unlock them in that order... |
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Post by Roumsen on Jun 27, 2015 10:13:36 GMT
So, the timeline is still just a flat and boringly ordinary .... line. *sigh* That's really sad. Sorry if this is completely out of place but, jesus christ, 22cans. Why do you guys keep the most important thing sooo simple? As flat as the mobile devices? Well... you don't necessarily have to unlock them in that order... Yeah. I can remember. I actually can remember? Nooooooooo!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 13:41:05 GMT
Misleading marketing? I just watched the godus clip on steam store video, it has champions in it and voyages display, also mentions guiding your people through ages, none of those are is the current release are they? Or is there still 1 voyage if you restart? cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/2029244/movie480.webm?t=1407754202Then again I suppose its made to sell the game much as trailers sometimes only show the best bits to sell movie tickets. And the spaceman as someone pointed out... Let's not also forget how Godus is still being sold in some places with multiplayer combat and progressing through the ages - the 1.3 description - while neither are currently in the game. |
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Post by 13thGeneral on Jun 28, 2015 2:17:03 GMT
So, the timeline is still just a flat and boringly ordinary .... line. *sigh* That's really sad. Sorry if this is completely out of place but, jesus christ, 22cans. Why do you guys keep the most important thing sooo simple? As flat as the mobile devices? Yeah, we've been harping on them about this timeline thing for a long, long time now. There was, at one time, a promise that they would integrate some sort of skill-tree like structure, but I can only assume that must have gone out the window pretty much immediately after making that statement. |
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Post by 13thGeneral on Jun 28, 2015 2:19:30 GMT
Misleading marketing? I just watched the godus clip on steam store video, it has champions in it and voyages display, also mentions guiding your people through ages, none of those are is the current release are they? Or is there still 1 voyage if you restart? cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/2029244/movie480.webm?t=1407754202Then again I suppose its made to sell the game much as trailers sometimes only show the best bits to sell movie tickets. And the spaceman as someone pointed out... Let's not also forget how Godus is still being sold in some places with multiplayer combat and progressing through the ages - the 1.3 description - while neither are currently in the game. I imagine they probably have a lot of the resources and artwork for these things just sitting on their internal servers waiting to be utilized. |
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Post by Spiderweb on Jun 28, 2015 7:25:38 GMT
Let's not also forget how Godus is still being sold in some places with multiplayer combat and progressing through the ages - the 1.3 description - while neither are currently in the game. I imagine they probably have a lot of the resources and artwork for these things just sitting on their internal servers waiting to be utilized. Surely adding buildings and follower models is all art and a very simple thing to do, making at the aspects of a game mod-able seems to be the in thing with these games nowdays too, I played with Lego digital designer, the fact you can import these/any ldd design into lego worlds is very cool. If they had the art assets why not publish them, make the community see that they exist? |
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Post by mindless on Jun 28, 2015 8:44:49 GMT
I'm going to go against the consensus here, and say that I don't believe the art exists.
We have seen how they have worked upto this point, always just exclusively focusing on one aspect at a time. if there is anything to show it will just be 2D concept work at best. They will not have 3D models of the buildings or characters from future ages yet, as they only seam to create these items as and when they are required. I suspect this would be down to their scrum sprinting methodology where they have a narrow focus on something. So I doubt they would even have looked into developing the future ages without having even reached them developmentally yet.
Maybe i'm wrong, but until i see some actuall 3D renders, i'll stick with this opinion.
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Post by Roumsen on Jun 28, 2015 12:14:20 GMT
So, the timeline is still just a flat and boringly ordinary .... line. *sigh* That's really sad. Sorry if this is completely out of place but, jesus christ, 22cans. Why do you guys keep the most important thing sooo simple? As flat as the mobile devices? Yeah, we've been harping on them about this timeline thing for a long, long time now. There was, at one time, a promise that they would integrate some sort of skill-tree like structure, but I can only assume that must have gone out the window pretty much immediately after making that statement. Here's what I wrote almost one and a half year ago about the  |
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Jun 28, 2015 13:37:57 GMT
So you were a godus backer then Roumsen? |
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Post by Roumsen on Jun 28, 2015 13:42:39 GMT
So you were a godus backer then Roumsen? No. Bought it on steam somewhen last year. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2015 19:12:09 GMT
Judging from this recent post on Steam, 22Cans' new CEO seems to be taking the same creative liberties with the use of "iterative design" as the last one: "We use agile for development at 22cans as it suits our iterative design process much better. As you say, it means that we can focus on specific elements of design and react to how successful (or unsuccessful) a feature turns out to be in a more rapid way. You've seen from the recent updates that we are currently focussing on 'combat' and by using agile the team were able to realise earlier in the year, that for it to be the experience we would like it to be it has to be much more involved than initial designs suggested. In my opinion, agile saved us a lot of wasted time and code." steamcommunity.com/app/232810/discussions/0/530645446309974906/Simon, can you please tell us how 22Cans' designed or reacted to the unsuccessful response garnered by the Story "feature" when it was presented to us and met with wholesale community rejection? Kyreal(?) told us it would be revised based on community feedback, so we'd hoped to see some improvements after 4 months. |
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Post by deadspear on Jul 6, 2015 23:32:00 GMT
So can anyone tell me what exactly has changed in 2 months since I created this post?
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