Moved posts

Ok, now that we got some of that frustration out of our systems, does everyone feel a little better?

Good, now...

Cupcakes for Everyone!

When I get a bit more time, I'll make sure there's something better made 

We enjoy being here too Lord Ba'al 

I'm pretty sure that would be considered illegal in many countries. 

We're... clearly thinking about different things  

Without telling us anything we have managed to get to know you a little better.

* makes note "colin dreams of illegal things"

With a couple of these you just need a live chicken and a lightning.

New rule............................13 is always to blame! 

I'm talking about the difference of words and actions. Even more so when the words are passive-aggressive.

Gonna try something to show how I feel about making some of these statements, so that any criticism is not perceived as hate but rather great disappointment and exasperation, but also how I feel about how things could improve:



Hello, kakatoe, good to meet you!

No problem with liking Godus at all.

As one of the bigger critics of the game/developer, I also find that there is HUGE potential still with the game, but it's not going to get there any decade soon with the same size of support team that Peter left on it months ago when he considered it complete, moved onto The Trail, and kept speaking about Godus in the past-tense.



I'm sure if folks had something else to talk about regarding the game, such as any feedback/input they believe would be taken on by the company, they would speak of those things quite happily. After all, most of those folks DID at one time believe enough in 22cans, Peter Molyneux, and Godus to buy/back it. I think it would be possible for that to happen again, and should be tried for again by 22cans.



Back, again, to how the company abused those who backed Godus and how they've really not put much good faith in the whole affair. That...above all else, disturbs me as a developer. That's just...not cool, at all. That is such a fundamental betrayal of trust, especially for an indie, that it's...disturbing that it seems to be continued today. It is spoiling Kickstarter and Early Access for other developers by inspiring rule changes on each platform and completely turning people off from anything else associated with the same. THAT isn't the kind of change a developer should be looking to be making in the industry.

Yes, I have to say that for the most part the community around Godus has been extremely patient and kindly...compared to a lot of other communities. If 22cans had managed to draw in the multiplayer competition crowd for the whole God of Gods already - not pretty at all.

Honestly, Peter Molyneux was someone I looked up to, recommended quite well, but what happened with Godus was...yah, we know. The problem is that it appears that little to nothing is really being done to try and fix many of the long-standing issues between 22cans and their backers/customers. I'm all for redemption stories, but it looks like 22cans just doesn't want to start improving their end, which would alleviate a lot of the criticisms about them past and present. If they showed something that promoted more community involvement, like when Konrad was around and interacted with the community...well, there's a reason why that time is fondly looked-upon.

If it WERE all "22cans is shit" without any suggestions for them on how to improve, then I would be objecting as well, but I've seen across here, Steam, okay...not the angry folks of the Kickstarter comments so much as they haven't been spoken to in about 4 months...but elsewhere this game is spoken about (well...maybe not in reply to recent articles containing questionable claims by the new CEO) I find that people are indeed suggesting on how this game could improve.

That seems to me to be an opening 22cans should be trying for.



I can say for myself that I'm a very busy person. Being mostly-retired does have its perks.



Yes, we know the current dev team is working hard - but ALMOST EVERYONE tended to like it when the developers were able to be spoken with so that immediate feedback and discussion about the game could be had. This was a great time around when Konrad was working with the community, and his dev threads on this forum are some of the most participated in.

Unfortunately, the state of the team seems to be the same that led to Fabs and others leaving, and so we're trying to avoid that situation repeating more ad nauseum as it has throughout Godus' development. That they've had to replace a fair number of folks on the team during the long Combat "sprint" is worrying enough to my experiences. That is why most of the grumbling is at the management and production of Godus - NOT THE DEVELOPERS THEMSELVES - but how the management has the dev team working in one little corner until they burn out to be replaced by a hire almost new to the industry.



*sigh*

With all that's said and done, I'd like to say more things positive. I really would, if I could find some, which is one of the things I've said about people having something to discuss about the game's design instead of the production behind it - and people get frustrated when they see that the feedback/suggestions they might have to offer go seemingly ignored in favour of 22cans being more interested in forum whitewashing wherever they have moderator control.

I actually adore the sculpting mechanic and how it feels (though it could possibly still use some tweaking/refinement), I also really like the art, and think that these elements could well compliment better core game mechanics - Godus just should be given a serious effort to have a chance to get there.