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Post by Monkeythumbz on Aug 7, 2014 20:17:15 GMT
For the record, I did read it as a joke. Kudos for me!  I recognized that it was 'intended' as a joke - however, I'm not laughing... (Perhaps I don't have a very flexible sense of humor?) So my response was equal parts joke equal parts fact, which is to say that I'm not just going to let 22cans off that easy. Even when they've having a bit of a good day in their release of the iOS version. However that is just my perspective on things, I guess I'm just not that forgiving when it comes to not following through on agreements? That said, I often come over a lot harsher than I intend to sound... Especially in text, so that does complicate matters. FWIW, I think you're cool and I like you. |
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Aug 7, 2014 20:25:05 GMT
For the record, I did read it as a joke. Kudos for me! I recognized that it was 'intended' as a joke - however, I'm not laughing... (Perhaps I don't have a very flexible sense of humor?) So my response was equal parts joke equal parts fact, which is to say that I'm not just going to let 22cans off that easy. Even when they've having a bit of a good day in their release of the iOS version. However that is just my perspective on things, I guess I'm just not that forgiving when it comes to not following through on agreements? That said, I often come over a lot harsher than I intend to sound... Especially in text, so that does complicate matters. I get where you're coming from but I honestly don't think feanix has any voice at all in however things are run at 22Cans. Now if it were Peter coming in here saying something like that I fully expect the whole forum to bite his head off.  |
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Post by Danjal on Aug 7, 2014 20:33:45 GMT
Hehe, I think a lot of us here would *love* to get the chance to sit down with Peter and thoroughly tell him what we believe of the experience so far.
Speaking for myself, I'd also like to hear his side of things. The unaltered "Peter Molyneux-view" on Godus and 22cans.
Without the marketing speech, without the need to hide things that might or might not happen, just a plain and straightforward chat from one human to another.
While it is ofcourse not exactly something that is probable to achieve (lets be honest, even if you COULD get an afternoon with the guy one-on-one there just are too many limitations to make such a candid conversation functional and there wouldn't be enough time to go through ALL of it)
The idea of being able to just lay out the facts and views from both sides and understand what it is that motivates the other and drove them to make certain decisions is something that does somewhat appeal to me.
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Post by distraction on Aug 7, 2014 20:37:27 GMT
I recognized that it was 'intended' as a joke - however, I'm not laughing... (Perhaps I don't have a very flexible sense of humor?) So my response was equal parts joke equal parts fact, which is to say that I'm not just going to let 22cans off that easy. Even when they've having a bit of a good day in their release of the iOS version. +1 but I'm not sure if it was a joke, feanix sounds a little passive agressive |
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Aug 7, 2014 21:00:49 GMT
Hehe, I think a lot of us here would *love* to get the chance to sit down with Peter and thoroughly tell him what we believe of the experience so far. Speaking for myself, I'd also like to hear his side of things. The unaltered "Peter Molyneux-view" on Godus and 22cans. Without the marketing speech, without the need to hide things that might or might not happen, just a plain and straightforward chat from one human to another. While it is ofcourse not exactly something that is probable to achieve (lets be honest, even if you COULD get an afternoon with the guy one-on-one there just are too many limitations to make such a candid conversation functional and there wouldn't be enough time to go through ALL of it) The idea of being able to just lay out the facts and views from both sides and understand what it is that motivates the other and drove them to make certain decisions is something that does somewhat appeal to me. If you ever do get that chance, be sure to feed him lots of booze so he'll talk more freely. |
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Post by Danjal on Aug 7, 2014 21:03:04 GMT
Nah, I'll just use one of those truthserums instead - far more effective!
Besides, isn't that what you used on Jack and George?
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Post by Monkeythumbz on Aug 7, 2014 21:07:30 GMT
Nah, I'll just use one of those truthserums instead - far more effective! Besides, isn't that what you used on Jack and George? Nah, just alcohol. |
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Post by Qetesh on Aug 7, 2014 21:11:48 GMT
Nah, I'll just use one of those truthserums instead - far more effective! Besides, isn't that what you used on Jack and George? Nah, just alcohol. That was a fun night! |
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Aug 7, 2014 21:12:43 GMT
Nah, I'll just use one of those truthserums instead - far more effective! Besides, isn't that what you used on Jack and George? A couple of beers did the trick.   |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 21:13:35 GMT
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Post by Qetesh on Aug 7, 2014 21:18:13 GMT
Nah, I'll just use one of those truthserums instead - far more effective! Besides, isn't that what you used on Jack and George? A couple of beers did the trick. TBH, I recall some scotch too. LOL. |
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Post by hardly on Aug 7, 2014 21:22:11 GMT
Is the NDA over? Can you now talk about things you couldn't talk about before.
Re random other 22cans guy. You have to forgive some of us. We've been through an ordeal and like John Rambo after Vietnam we can be a bit antisocial sometimes. We are trying to be better.
Regarding open worlds I agree with the comment that open felt a lot better. Regarding procedural and what not the goal should be creativity. The problem with previous versions was sculpting was so limited you couldn't be creative.
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Post by Raspofabs on Aug 7, 2014 21:41:36 GMT
I still think my bug where I lost all my buildings was a bigger clusterfuck but yeah mobile is bugged to hell. I had regular disconnection and reconnection issues as well as the big wipe. I can only assume they don't give a fuck about people living in little old NZ and that it's safe to test this buggy game on us. You'd think if 22Cans actually played their game they'd find these issues. We only encountered that bug twice in the whole time developing. It's totally unreproducible in development. So, I spent a week building a system that will flag this kind of thing happening. It's going to send a screenshot and your save data to our servers, and from that we should be in a much better position to fix it. I'm hoping that if it ever happens again, we won't just be able to fix it, but also be able to adjust your save in the server so your houses come back too. I'm going to keep my fingers crossed that all the other bug fixes we've made recently will have fixed it in passing. That's the thing about software: c2.com/cgi/wiki?ProofsCantProveTheAbsenceOfBugs |
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Post by hardly on Aug 7, 2014 22:21:56 GMT
I still think my bug where I lost all my buildings was a bigger clusterfuck but yeah mobile is bugged to hell. I had regular disconnection and reconnection issues as well as the big wipe. I can only assume they don't give a fuck about people living in little old NZ and that it's safe to test this buggy game on us. You'd think if 22Cans actually played their game they'd find these issues. We only encountered that bug twice in the whole time developing. It's totally unreproducible in development. So, I spent a week building a system that will flag this kind of thing happening. It's going to send a screenshot and your save data to our servers, and from that we should be in a much better position to fix it. I'm hoping that if it ever happens again, we won't just be able to fix it, but also be able to adjust your save in the server so your houses come back too. I'm going to keep my fingers crossed that all the other bug fixes we've made recently will have fixed it in passing. That's the thing about software: c2.com/cgi/wiki?ProofsCantProveTheAbsenceOfBugsThanks for the response. Is it weird that I feel special now because I've achieved a rare bug. Kinda like a rare drop. If only you'd given me a badge for it. |
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Aug 7, 2014 22:30:39 GMT
We only encountered that bug twice in the whole time developing. It's totally unreproducible in development. So, I spent a week building a system that will flag this kind of thing happening. It's going to send a screenshot and your save data to our servers, and from that we should be in a much better position to fix it. I'm hoping that if it ever happens again, we won't just be able to fix it, but also be able to adjust your save in the server so your houses come back too. I'm going to keep my fingers crossed that all the other bug fixes we've made recently will have fixed it in passing. That's the thing about software: c2.com/cgi/wiki?ProofsCantProveTheAbsenceOfBugsThanks for the response. Is it weird that I feel special now because I've achieved a rare bug. Kinda like a rare drop. If only you'd given me a badge for it. Maybe Kristine Greaves could make you one. She already made a hat. |
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Post by Danjal on Aug 7, 2014 22:46:02 GMT
On behalf of all the fans, customers, backers and supporters - if you're a 22cans employee and you haven't had dinner yet recently.
Go eat now... You need sustenance to be able to handle all that work heading your way!
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Post by Monkeythumbz on Aug 8, 2014 12:48:13 GMT
On behalf of all the fans, customers, backers and supporters - if you're a 22cans employee and you haven't had dinner yet recently. Go eat now... You need sustenance to be able to handle all that work heading your way! Peter buys us food whenever we need to work late |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2014 13:00:40 GMT
On behalf of all the fans, customers, backers and supporters - if you're a 22cans employee and you haven't had dinner yet recently. Go eat now... You need sustenance to be able to handle all that work heading your way! Peter buys us food whenever we need to work late I would put that AAAALLLLL over my resume... Qualifications: Peter Molyneux buys me food. |
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Post by Danjal on Aug 8, 2014 14:19:13 GMT
Why wasn't that mentioned in his introductory video - "What I do at 22cans, I buy people food when they have to work late."
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Post by banned on Aug 9, 2014 16:58:18 GMT
Why wasn't that mentioned in his introductory video - "What I do at 22cans, I buy people food when they have to work late." because it is redeeming. |
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