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Post by Gmr Leon on Nov 22, 2015 4:26:54 GMT
I keep bringing up bug threads like these in the community team so they'll get to them as soon as they can, I'm sure. Sorry it's taking so long, but I can't really fault someone for using the holidays they're entitled to either. Uh...In all seriousness here, who even is the community team anymore? With the CMs gone and Colin as PR instead of CR/CM, who are you volunteer guys calling back to at this point? Aren't you about as dead in the water as we are these days?
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Post by Aynen on Nov 22, 2015 6:39:39 GMT
I keep bringing up bug threads like these in the community team so they'll get to them as soon as they can, I'm sure. Sorry it's taking so long, but I can't really fault someone for using the holidays they're entitled to either. Uh...In all seriousness here, who even is the community team anymore? With the CMs gone and Colin as PR instead of CR/CM, who are you volunteer guys calling back to at this point? Aren't you about as dead in the water as we are these days? Colin is the one we report to now. He's PR but after Dave left he stepped up to the plate. Even Simon himself occationally drops by. Never saw Peter do that, so bonuspoints to Simon for that as far as I'm concerned. We're certainly not dead in the water, but with the update taking as long as it has, there hasn't been as much to do as before. There's always bug threads, and Colin certainly defends the community's interests behind the scenes. He just doesn't brag about it. But he does much more than you realise, and I can't prove it to you. C'est la vie.
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Post by greay on Nov 22, 2015 10:23:38 GMT
Uh...In all seriousness here, who even is the community team anymore? With the CMs gone and Colin as PR instead of CR/CM, who are you volunteer guys calling back to at this point? Aren't you about as dead in the water as we are these days? Colin is the one we report to now. He's PR but after Dave left he stepped up to the plate. Even Simon himself occationally drops by. Never saw Peter do that, so bonuspoints to Simon for that as far as I'm concerned. We're certainly not dead in the water, but with the update taking as long as it has, there hasn't been as much to do as before. There's always bug threads, and Colin certainly defends the community's interests behind the scenes. He just doesn't brag about it. But he does much more than you realise, and I can't prove it to you. C'est la vie. What's even left to defend at this point? With the updates trickling to nothing, there's not even anything to be interested in. And really, he's doing a piss-poor job of defending the community's interests, given that one of the major interests is being kept in the loop about the development of the game.
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Post by hardly on Nov 22, 2015 18:39:09 GMT
Uh...In all seriousness here, who even is the community team anymore? With the CMs gone and Colin as PR instead of CR/CM, who are you volunteer guys calling back to at this point? Aren't you about as dead in the water as we are these days? Colin is the one we report to now. He's PR but after Dave left he stepped up to the plate. Even Simon himself occationally drops by. Never saw Peter do that, so bonuspoints to Simon for that as far as I'm concerned. We're certainly not dead in the water, but with the update taking as long as it has, there hasn't been as much to do as before. There's always bug threads, and Colin certainly defends the community's interests behind the scenes. He just doesn't brag about it. But he does much more than you realise, and I can't prove it to you. C'est la vie. If there are so many nice guys there with good intentions there must be one mega-cunt who fucks everything up, how else to you explain the cynical and underwhelming product that comes out the door?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 20:57:12 GMT
Uh...In all seriousness here, who even is the community team anymore? With the CMs gone and Colin as PR instead of CR/CM, who are you volunteer guys calling back to at this point? Aren't you about as dead in the water as we are these days? ...I can't prove it to you. Oh? Well, at least you're consistent.
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Post by 13thGeneral on Nov 23, 2015 4:13:18 GMT
I knew they were going to use the "Holiday" excuse again. I called it more than a month ago. Delay updates until we can have an actual excuse to ignore things even longer. Every. Damn. Year. Even if it has a hair of truth, it's still total BS. Nice try though.
If they want good faith, they need to curate it. Respect is earned with actions, not long silences, half-truths, empty promises (even well intended ones), and lack of progress. So far they've done one of the most piss poor efforts towards generating loyalty from their customers and community that I've witnessed in my 42 years. All the assurances that behind the scene everything is progressing and the "thing" is being made means nothing without tangibility.
Gah. I feel like I'm lecturing a teenager. This is just ridiculous.
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Post by Aron on Nov 23, 2015 9:48:06 GMT
And while I'm ranting, it pisses me off that they've spent GODUS money developing everything other than PC GODUS. First it was mobile GODUS and then as soon as they were done with that the money was diverted to Be-Trail. If they'd just worked on GODUS as a PC title we could have made some progress over the last three years. and you can bet the combat update makes it even worse
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Post by Crumpy Six on Nov 23, 2015 10:48:37 GMT
22Cans knows how much annual leave its employees are entitled to. It also knows when contracts run out etc. Using holidays as an excuse for not getting stuff done is another symptom of the company's complete inability to plan and schedule work and meet a deadline of any kind. I am only aware of one deadline that 22Cans actually met, and that's the one set by DeNA in 2014 for the mobile release (because they had to).
Regarding Colin "defending the community's interests" behind closed doors: I can only think this means he's trying to put pressure on management to continue working on Godus and squeeze out some kind of game update. There is exactly zero evidence of this having any effect whatsoever.
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Post by Gmr Leon on Nov 23, 2015 22:06:01 GMT
22Cans knows how much annual leave its employees are entitled to. It also knows when contracts run out etc. Using holidays as an excuse for not getting stuff done is another symptom of the company's complete inability to plan and schedule work and meet a deadline of any kind. I am only aware of one deadline that 22Cans actually met, and that's the one set by DeNA in 2014 for the mobile release (because they had to). Regarding Colin "defending the community's interests" behind closed doors: I can only think this means he's trying to put pressure on management to continue working on Godus and squeeze out some kind of game update. There is exactly zero evidence of this having any effect whatsoever. I bet I know the effect it's having. Remember when we put the pressure on them? We got lots of hot air! Colin's probably getting terribly uncomfortable from office humidity from talking to Peter at length to try and rein him in, alongside swapping out with Simon on occasion. However the biggest trouble in all this is that all that talk's making the machines get all nasty so they have to air out the office so they can get back to work. You don't even wanna know how often the dehumidifiers have to be emptied out, and how many setbacks have happened from trying to figure out a way to pipe the contents away so they don't have to anymore.
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Post by mindless on Nov 26, 2015 1:23:52 GMT
So 22cans appears to be in the run silent run deep mode everywhere. Although they can take time out of their day to openly mock and bait people on twitter. I Guess they needed a new realm to try and piss people off in since they are under too much scrutiny on steam? I mean WTF, whose idea of PR is this
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2015 21:10:12 GMT
How Not To PR, When a caricature of your company's ineptitude has the potential to become more popular than anything you've delivered in the last year... Godus - Community Herald
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2016 16:18:52 GMT
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Feb 12, 2016 16:50:51 GMT
I didn't see that in the steam thread so apparently already deleted.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2016 16:54:20 GMT
I didn't see that in the steam thread so apparently already deleted. You appear to be correct. Troller's remorse? Timely take-back? The world may never know.
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Feb 12, 2016 18:41:17 GMT
I didn't see that in the steam thread so apparently already deleted. You appear to be correct. Troller's remorse? Timely take-back? The world may never know. Maybe muir flogged him for it.
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Post by Crumpy Six on Feb 20, 2016 11:27:07 GMT
3rd February, 2016. Godus Wars is released. On the Steam boards, the Godus Wars forum is set up in anticipation of an enormous deluge of excited fans posting unmanageable volumes of feedback. Such an avalanche of praise, reviews and constructive crticism is expected, the only way to make any sense of it is to create a sensible and user-friendly filing system. 7 sub-boards and 48 pinned threads feels about right, to put some order to this chaos! After an initial flurry of activity, during which Midnight Bacon diligently polices the proper use of the forum (if the game crashes when you squish a citadel, you don't post it in the "problems squishing citadels thread" you silly fool! that goes in tech support!) he falls silent. It's been over a week since he last posted. CyberGrim has been slightly more active. His last action, on Feb 16th, was to lock a thread in tech Support where someone irretrievably lost their save. Gosh. Let's hope that gets bumped off the front page before anyone sees it! Well, the reality is there is nothing to be done. Nobody is posting. The most active board is Off Topic, which is the only board where you're actually allowed to talk freely about Godus Wars, and 22Cans staff pointedly ignore this section. Honestly 22Cans How do you do it.
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Post by hardly on Feb 20, 2016 19:26:52 GMT
What are we supposed to do now exactly? After 1 year+ of effort 22Cans produced a buggy and underwhelming RTS that is massively short of content and no plan for future development (I am sure they have one chock full of microtransactions). There is only one word to describe this situation - boring. 22Cans are trying to bore us (the only people interested in GODUS) in to forgetting that they and GODUS exist.
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Post by Crumpy Six on Feb 23, 2016 22:47:36 GMT
Not directly related to 22Cans PR, but half of the small volume of activity on the Steam boards is once again Fragglerock being a nasty little shit. 22Cans certainly fosters a healthy community.
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Feb 23, 2016 22:53:21 GMT
Not directly related to 22Cans PR, but half of the small volume of activity on the Steam boards is once again Fragglerock being a nasty little shit. 22Cans certainly fosters a healthy community. In what way is he a nasty little shit?
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Post by hardly on Feb 23, 2016 23:23:11 GMT
Not directly related to 22Cans PR, but half of the small volume of activity on the Steam boards is once again Fragglerock being a nasty little shit. 22Cans certainly fosters a healthy community. In what way is he a nasty little shit? This thread looks like a good example: steamcommunity.com/app/422420/discussions/3/405692224238182192/
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