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Post by Deth on Feb 3, 2016 15:13:37 GMT
Deth, did the game appear in your library yet? I am at work. But it is not showing in my Steam app.
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Post by Aynen on Feb 3, 2016 15:18:48 GMT
I hope that'll be resolved by the time you get home.
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Post by Deth on Feb 3, 2016 15:22:22 GMT
Will not matter as I have plans for tonight so would not get to it tonight. Maybe tomorrow depending on if my friends are on Diablo 3 or not. I just unlocked conqueror achievements last night so need to work with them to help level up my character to work though them.
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Post by tikigod on Feb 3, 2016 15:22:33 GMT
Yeah, I can only say that from the looks of it, it is an improvement. Ditching Godus in favour of the unity-based Godus-wars is the best decision they've made yet. Not that they've set that bar particularly high. Any rational decision would be their best yet. Opting for the marmalade engine was a terrible decision and may be one of the big reasons the Godus project was a failure imho. Unfortunately it's still not in my account so I can't really say if the game is any good. I'm hoping it appears soon, as I have to leave in 90 minutes. Is there anything I can do to trigger this process? I do see Godus Wars in the store, and am able to buy it if that helps. I have to say the trailer is a bit meh. That surprises me, because the trailer of the original Godus was actually good. According to Aynen on the Steam boards Unity is just used for the main menu section, and starting a match then fires up Godus itself. And firing up a actual match does partially seem to support Aynen's claim as it launches a entirely new process. However diving into the assembly files where Unity stores project scripts, seeing all sorts of scripts for oppenentAI, follower movement and all sorts. So who knows.
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Post by tikigod on Feb 3, 2016 15:29:34 GMT
btw 22Cans, if you're going to discontinue the Godus store page, and bundle Godus into Godus Wars you can't be going around reporting Reviews about Godus in relation to Godus Wars and 22Cans as 'Off-topic' for Valve moderation.
You need to cut that shit out right now.
Firstly because it's completely stupid to even think that will end well for your company given your history.
And secondly because it actually stops reviews from being editted to more accurately reflect things after more playtime.
Please oh please don't start adopting 'Aynen standards' of moderation as your companies core guidelines.
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Post by heggers on Feb 3, 2016 15:39:24 GMT
btw 22Cans, if you're going to discontinue the Godus store page, and bundle Godus into Godus Wars you can't be going around reporting Reviews about Godus in relation to Godus Wars and 22Cans as 'Off-topic' for Valve moderation. You need to cut that shit out right now. What do you mean? They trying to censor reviews now?
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Post by tikigod on Feb 3, 2016 15:51:42 GMT
btw 22Cans, if you're going to discontinue the Godus store page, and bundle Godus into Godus Wars you can't be going around reporting Reviews about Godus in relation to Godus Wars and 22Cans as 'Off-topic' for Valve moderation. You need to cut that shit out right now. What do you mean? They trying to censor reviews now? Wrote a review about how Godus Wars wasn't a positive next step in terms of Godus development, nor that it's a sign that development on Godus itself has seen new life and that instead Godus Wars is just an attempt to bury the lies and the failure to deliver on the promises made for Godus and an excuse to point to Godus Wars and claim they feel they did deliver. Very promptly a 22Cans official flagged it as 'Off-topic' for Valve moderation. steamcommunity.com/id/Tikigod/recommended/422420/Sad thing is after checking out Aynen's claim about Unity involvement and figuring they may be right I went to update my review to remove the inaccuracy and explain how it seems to be utilised, only to find they had flagged it and as such the review can't be changed to correct the inaccuracy. So their knee jerk attempt to remove a review has now caused that inaccuracy to be unremoveable.
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Post by tikigod on Feb 3, 2016 16:02:32 GMT
Honestly if they do dump Godus and just keep working on Godus Wars and try to get some of what they promised into it. I have no problem. Of course I am one of the people that wanted a more original Populous style games and maybe this will give it to me. Poking Godus Wars more, it's essentially a game of 'Risk'. Within the Unity side of things you pick your god out of 4 options. You then get taken to a view of the planet split into lands. You pick a land and get taken to a zoomed in view of the territories that make up that land. You select which land you want to invade, it shows you your opponent and you can slot up to 4 cards into your loadout to take into the fight which cover things like god powers and unit buffs. You then proceed to start the match and the game does a random wheel spin to decide what additional rule is applied to the match (For example, 'cheaper power costs'). After that the game loads up what certainly appears to be the Godus client and you start a RTS experience that plays like your typical C&C grade RTS, you select your buildings, give unit production orders, select your units and give them direct move and attack orders to wave war on the enemy group. If you win, you get the territory get taken back to the Unity environment and things repeat.
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Post by heggers on Feb 3, 2016 16:09:05 GMT
What do you mean? They trying to censor reviews now? Wrote a review about how Godus Wars wasn't a positive next step in terms of Godus development, nor that it's a sign that development on Godus itself has seen new life and that instead Godus Wars is just an attempt to bury the lies and the failure to deliver on the promises made for Godus and an excuse to point to Godus Wars and claim they feel they did deliver. Very promptly a 22Cans official flagged it as 'Off-topic' for Valve moderation. steamcommunity.com/id/Tikigod/recommended/422420/Sad thing is after checking out Aynen's claim about Unity involvement and figuring they may be right I went to update my review to remove the inaccuracy and explain how it seems to be utilised, only to find they had flagged it and as such the review can't be changed to correct the inaccuracy. So their knee jerk attempt to remove a review has now caused that inaccuracy to be unremoveable. Wish I could say I was surprised but its pretty much what we've come to expect from Muir, Aynen, Collin and Simon... Shame on the lot of them
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Post by Deth on Feb 3, 2016 16:10:21 GMT
Well that is not what I hoped for. At least the battle part. The wrapper around how you got into the battle is not of a concern to me, I would have liked some central kingdom you grow and send your force out to attack other kingdoms.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 16:11:18 GMT
*starts another timer*
0 seconds, that was quick!
Smarmy $*#&post from 22cans has already hit the forums. How predicable.
I realise releasing a game months after the due date is a huge accomplishment for 22cans, but maybe there are more grown up ways of running a victory lap, humm?
Ah well, no harm done. Best get back to sterilising the Steam forums, eh?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 16:18:34 GMT
P.S. The only people you are fooling are yourselves, hope you enjoy yet another self-induced #*@&storm.
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Post by totallytim on Feb 3, 2016 16:29:01 GMT
Steam claims I plaid 40 minutes of it so I have a basic idea about what this thing is about. It very much feels like a band aid, something to shift focus away from the negatively acclaimed Godus standalone. They said themselves it's not StarCraft, but even that would be an overstatement. It's standalone GodusLemmings 2.0 with a twist, that is in no way connected to the core "god game" and still feels very mobile like, like it would work on an iPad when sitting on a toilet. It might be fun for some (which is what they're probably counting on), specially when it's featured on sale, but as a standalone game it's nothing to write home about.
Sure it's better than nothing, but it's also not what I wanted from Godus when I first bought into the project and not something I really want to play. If this is the end result of Godus plus a few extra updates and fixes, then I can finally and diffidently say that I wasted my money.
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Post by tikigod on Feb 3, 2016 16:38:24 GMT
steamcommunity.com/app/422420/discussions/3/405690850600269998/#c405690850600407789As I can't post there any more due to insta-locking after their post.... was there some kind of development to Godus I've missed over the last year? And how exactly are the people listed in the FAQ when you also apply information we know about who has and hasn't been working on Godus taken directly from 22Can staff from these forums not reflective of efforts being handled by a sub-team within 22Cans rather than their main manpower who are working on that other mobile-only project? As Midnight Bacon seems to think there's something in that FAQ that says something I'm clearly missing.... and if I am, I'd sure like to know what it is and I sure as hell hope they're not trying to say "We say in the FAQ that Godus Wars is a sign of Godus development, so you can't disagree and say otherwise".
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Post by totallytim on Feb 3, 2016 16:44:52 GMT
You're not endorsing the game on their forums, it's only natural they want to silence you asap and be done with it. The procedure is described clearly in their "How to PR 22Cans style" handbook that came in a cereal box.
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Post by Gmr Leon on Feb 3, 2016 16:45:10 GMT
steamcommunity.com/app/422420/discussions/3/405690850600269998/#c405690850600407789As I can't post there any more due to insta-locking after their post.... was there some kind of development to Godus I've missed over the last year? And how exactly are the people listed in the FAQ when you also apply information we know about who has and hasn't been working on Godus taken directly from 22Can staff from these forums not reflective of efforts being handled by a sub-team within 22Cans rather than their main manpower who are working on that other mobile-only project? As Midnight Bacon seems to think there's something in that FAQ that says something I'm clearly missing.... and if I am, I'd sure like to know what it is and I sure as hell hope they're not trying to say "We say in the FAQ that Godus Wars is a sign of Godus development, so you can't disagree and say otherwise". I think I mentioned this either in this thread or another, but it seems I was sort of right about 22cans' official stance being: Godus Wars and Godus are the same development. The subteam's work on Wars was Godus work, and it is false to claim otherwise. I don't think it has much to do with the subteam claim, though I may be incorrect on this.
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Post by eddiemonsta on Feb 3, 2016 16:48:35 GMT
Any sign of fabs secret project?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 16:52:42 GMT
As Midnight Bacon seems to think there's something in that FAQ that says something I'm clearly missing.... and if I am, I'd sure like to know what it is and I sure as hell hope they're not trying to say "We say in the FAQ that Godus Wars is a sign of Godus development, so you can't disagree and say otherwise". I think that's to a degree what they are trying to say. Something along the lines of, "Godus Wars will eventually be tied into Godus Vanilla, therefore it counts as Godus Vanilla development... but you can't count Godus Vanilla against Godus Wars... because it isn't the same!" I imagine it would be a certain sort of absolute hell trying to keep up with the disingenuousness that goes on within that studio on a daily basis, multiplicative when they attempt to translate things into public-facing word-things.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 16:54:57 GMT
Any sign of fabs secret project? I might actually be tempted to install Godus Wars if there was. Until then, sorry, I'm not going to add binary to 22cans' database... "burn me once" and all that.
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Post by tikigod on Feb 3, 2016 17:03:18 GMT
As Midnight Bacon seems to think there's something in that FAQ that says something I'm clearly missing.... and if I am, I'd sure like to know what it is and I sure as hell hope they're not trying to say "We say in the FAQ that Godus Wars is a sign of Godus development, so you can't disagree and say otherwise". I think that's to a degree what they are trying to say. Something along the lines of, "Godus Wars will eventually be tied into Godus Vanilla, therefore it counts as Godus Vanilla development... but you can't count Godus Vanilla against Godus Wars... because it isn't the same!" I imagine it would be a certain sort of absolute hell trying to keep up with the disingenuousness that goes on within that studio on a daily basis, multiplicative when they attempt to translate things into public-facing word-things. Dunno, guess I expected something better from Colin. Oh well, bring on Molyneux 2.0.
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