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Post by banned on Jul 1, 2014 2:29:36 GMT
yup, more of the same. Loved the "how do we know they have not yet worked on the PC game?", um, history of action perhaps? Because obviously we should all blindly wait and never consider facts actually on the table 'cause surely it isn't all lies again. Now that I've seen the official "Welcoming Aynen" thread, there's no point in furthering discussion. My post could technically get me banned since it could be interpreted as arguing with a moderator, though what I said is true. I'm wondering how soon it'll be before someone gets a ban for disagreeing with him/her in a discussion. At the very least, a new moderator should know a tiny bit about the community that they're being put in charge of. sadly this remains the same behavior from the first image a year and a half ago. "how do you know the gems are cash shop?" "how do you know it isn't a real PC game?" "how do you know that signing a deal with a known purveyor of mobile P2W means we are focusing on mobile?" "how do you know the mobile mechanics are not clever designed PC plans?" "how do you know the shop in the very first release on Steam is a betrayal of everything we got your money for?" "how do you know that 5 months of silence and then a redesigned purely for mobile meant we have never even cared about PC?" "how do you know 'now the real journey of godus begins' on the eve of the mobile launch was admission that PC was at best a bunch of folks we got money from and now want to shut up?" "how do you now that since all the interaction has been vague 'that's helpful' with no affect or 'you bad!' that the community front is exactly that, just a front?" the insulting part is that the "no cause to be skeptical" act.
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Jul 1, 2014 2:58:32 GMT
So Aynen finally got his long coveted mod job. Good for him. Aynen's not completely out of nowhere then? Because that's the vibe I got when I first saw that stuff. No he's been on the 22Cans forum since the beginning. Always extremely positive towards 22Cans to the point of utter ridiculousness. Much like Muir, only more likeable. We'll see what happens with that after he's been modding for a while.
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Post by earlparvisjam on Jul 1, 2014 3:42:02 GMT
Aynen's not completely out of nowhere then? Because that's the vibe I got when I first saw that stuff. No he's been on the 22Cans forum since the beginning. Always extremely positive towards 22Cans to the point of utter ridiculousness. Much like Muir, only more likeable. We'll see what happens with that after he's been modding for a while. Amazing, simply amazing. That thread's the first time I've met him/her on there and I've been a fairly heavy poster since at least February (only dabbled a bit in September). The first thing I thought when I started reading the respnses was "cripes, we got new sale buyer spouting off again." It was shocking when I saw the welcome thread pinned to the top. Now, hearing that he's a 22Cans forum long timer, I am even less enthused about the state of things over on Steam.
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Jul 1, 2014 4:10:59 GMT
Amazing, simply amazing. That thread's the first time I've met him/her on there and I've been a fairly heavy poster since at least February (only dabbled a bit in September). The first thing I thought when I started reading the respnses was "cripes, we got new sale buyer spouting off again." It was shocking when I saw the welcome thread pinned to the top. Now, hearing that he's a 22Cans forum long timer, I am even less enthused about the state of things over on Steam. Do you have anything against 22Cans forum long timers? I'm a 22Cans forum long timer too! From what I've read from him on Steam so far I get the impression that he's either genuinely unaware of the state of things and discussions that have taken place or that he's pretending to be. Perhaps he has never stepped outside the 22Cans forum before and since that place has been more or less deserted for a while he doesn't know what has taken place.
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Post by earlparvisjam on Jul 1, 2014 4:24:37 GMT
Amazing, simply amazing. That thread's the first time I've met him/her on there and I've been a fairly heavy poster since at least February (only dabbled a bit in September). The first thing I thought when I started reading the respnses was "cripes, we got new sale buyer spouting off again." It was shocking when I saw the welcome thread pinned to the top. Now, hearing that he's a 22Cans forum long timer, I am even less enthused about the state of things over on Steam. Do you have anything against 22Cans forum long timers? I'm a 22Cans forum long timer too! From what I've read from him on Steam so far I get the impression that he's either genuinely unaware of the state of things and discussions that have taken place or that he's pretending to be. Perhaps he has never stepped outside the 22Cans forum before and since that place has been more or less deserted for a while he doesn't know what has taken place. All those 22Cans forum long timers with their fancy cheeses and special handshakes make me sick. I applied to their forums ages ago and they snubbed me. I guess they were too good to want to associate with a prole like me. Fine, I didn't want to be in their special exclusive club any way. In honesty, I'm shocked that they'd throw anyone at those forums that had so little understanding of the situation. Someone that's been on one of the forums associated to Godus should have at least an inkling about what's been going on over on Steam. The two communities can't be so isolated that the discussions haven't popped up over there, at least in part. The only people I've ever heard the "stfu, it's still Beta" line from were Godus newbies on Steam. To jump onto those forums and drop a big stinker on the first day doesn't sound promising. If he wasn't warned about it, then someone dropped the ball in a major way. The next month is going to be ugly if this is the start of a trend. Gah, headache's back and I need pills.
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Jul 1, 2014 4:51:33 GMT
All those 22Cans forum long timers with their fancy cheeses and special handshakes make me sick. I applied to their forums ages ago and they snubbed me. I guess they were too good to want to associate with a prole like me. Fine, I didn't want to be in their special exclusive club any way. Come on, be honest now. You just wanted the cheese.
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Post by earlparvisjam on Jul 1, 2014 5:11:44 GMT
All those 22Cans forum long timers with their fancy cheeses and special handshakes make me sick. I applied to their forums ages ago and they snubbed me. I guess they were too good to want to associate with a prole like me. Fine, I didn't want to be in their special exclusive club any way. Come on, be honest now. You just wanted the cheese. Well, it does stand alone.
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Post by Crumpy Six on Jul 1, 2014 6:28:08 GMT
Wow. When I saw Aynen's name in orange, I assumed it was a generic Steam mod who was participating in the discussion as a regular gamer/potential buyer. I can't believe this person has been involved in the community for such a long time; he/she is acting (as someone else pointed out) like someone who just got introduced to Godus for the first time yesterday!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2014 6:46:11 GMT
Maybe the motivation is to add another factor into the tried and true "Good Mod/Bad Mod" PR schemata so many studios implement. Adding a seemingly less-informed, inquisitive, yet well established Mod into the mix is sure to spark some fun, right? I, however, digress, Anyone who takes up the banner of a Godus Mod at this conjuncture I wish multitudes of success in truly achieving the communitie's goals and being a champion for the things that will actually make this game better. Good luck, Aynen.
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Post by Monkeythumbz on Jul 1, 2014 7:36:44 GMT
and of course were I the troll you wish to paint me, there would be dozens of proxied IP accounts posting via script. Sadly, for your narrative, I my be rude and poorly mannered but I an seldom utterly off base. Getting folks scared to confront the bullshit won't actually do any good. Short term fix until the game press again excoriates the waste of drive space. But feel free to declare victory and claim I am the problem despite having never done anything but tell the truth and pass damned good advice. Reality, is that until 22cans provides more than tongue wag and denial of reality, the company is doomed. I'm amazed how many posts you've made abput ths. It comes across like you're behaving this way simply because you love the attention. You weren't banned for "telling the truth and passing damned good advice." You were banned for obvious trolling and for obviously baitiing and arguing with a mod. So please don't try and paint yourself as some kind of man-of-the-people Robin Hood. There is much useful commentary within the community and others have proven it's perfectly possible to express negativity without doing so in a way that gets you banned from the Steam forums. Ipso facto Q.E.D.
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Post by hardly on Jul 1, 2014 9:34:54 GMT
I still think forums is the real game. Peter isn't collecting analytics on GODUS hes monitoring the entire interweb. Even George hasn't been told the truth because that would ruin the experiment.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2014 10:06:56 GMT
I still think forums is the real game. Peter isn't collecting analytics on GODUS hes monitoring the entire interweb. Even George hasn't been told the truth because that would ruin the experiment. F2P Forum Monetisation! Brilliant! That meanie mod guy ban you for "advertising" when you were simply making a product comparison? Feeling lost, left out, and alone without your forum buddies at your side? Can't wait to get back to commenting but no matter how hard you click that 30 day ban timer won't go any faster!?!? Fear Not! For the low price of £3.99 you can invest in a single UN-BAN-ME Gem! Plan on getting banned a few times for rudely pointing out inconsistencies within the forums? Don't you Fret! Invest in our UN-BAN-ME-BRO Gem Quadruple Pack for only £9.99 And finally, for those serious commentators who wish to be impervious to all banning authority save Gabe Newell himself, we give you the UN-BANNI-BRU Premium Zen-Like Membership Subscription. Only £19.99 per month, recurring. ©1Can Studios.
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Post by Qetesh on Jul 1, 2014 15:28:13 GMT
Cripes...Anyen? I hope he mods more fair not like his Barney rose colored glasses posts at 22cans most of the time.
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Post by nerdyvonnerdling on Jul 1, 2014 16:12:37 GMT
Hug it out already, you two.
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Jul 1, 2014 16:38:40 GMT
I highly applaud and support this suggestion. banned is not as bad as he seems and Monkeythumbz is not a bad boy either. Start snuggling up boys.
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Post by Monkeythumbz on Jul 1, 2014 16:51:29 GMT
I highly applaud and support this suggestion. banned is not as bad as he seems and Monkeythumbz is not a bad boy either. Start snuggling up boys. I'm more than happy to forgive and forget! Ultimately, if the game were more to Tigris' tastes then there wouldn't be an issue in the first place, so it brings it all back to what I think my original comment on Steam was - that the best and only way we can prove our worth and demonstrate our intentions is with software deliverables. However, creating content takes time and as we all know, we won't be shifting our focus back to making the PC version a priority until later this year. As such, I fully expect further exchanges like this with various, non-specific community members to fill the time gap. Not a great situation, but that's my problem to deal with, not yours.
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Post by Lord Ba'al on Jul 1, 2014 16:58:47 GMT
Ultimately, if the game were more to Tigris' tastes then there wouldn't be an issue in the first place, so it brings it all back to what I think my original comment on Steam was - that the best and only way we can prove our worth and demonstrate our intentions is with software deliverables. However, creating content takes time and as we all know, we won't be shifting our focus back to making the PC version a priority until later this year. As such, I fully expect further exchanges like this with various, non-specific community members to fill the time gap. Not a great situation, but that's my problem to deal with, not yours. Regardless of people liking the game or not, it should be possible for two adults to accept their differences. This doesn't mean that you can't get into heated situations with each other but I'd prefer not to see each of your grand kids killing each other for reasons they aren't even aware of. In other words, no ongoing feuds please.
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Post by Casinha on Jul 1, 2014 17:11:00 GMT
Ultimately, if the game were more to Tigris' tastes then there wouldn't be an issue in the first place, so it brings it all back to what I think my original comment on Steam was - that the best and only way we can prove our worth and demonstrate our intentions is with software deliverables. However, creating content takes time and as we all know, we won't be shifting our focus back to making the PC version a priority until later this year. As such, I fully expect further exchanges like this with various, non-specific community members to fill the time gap. Not a great situation, but that's my problem to deal with, not yours. Regardless of people liking the game or not, it should be possible for two adults to accept their differences. This doesn't mean that you can't get into heated situations with each other but I'd prefer not to see each of your grand kids killing each other for reasons they aren't even aware of. In other words, no ongoing feuds please. I dunno, I think I could make a killing selling popcorn.
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Post by Monkeythumbz on Jul 1, 2014 17:15:34 GMT
Regardless of people liking the game or not, it should be possible for two adults to accept their differences. This doesn't mean that you can't get into heated situations with each other but I'd prefer not to see each of your grand kids killing each other for reasons they aren't even aware of. In other words, no ongoing feuds please. I agree wholeheartedly and would like to move on from this.
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Post by Matthew Allen on Jul 1, 2014 18:30:48 GMT
Aynen's not completely out of nowhere then? Because that's the vibe I got when I first saw that stuff. No he's been on the 22Cans forum since the beginning. Always extremely positive towards 22Cans to the point of utter ridiculousness. Much like Muir, only more likeable. We'll see what happens with that after he's been modding for a while. Not trying to stir anything up, particularly as George's post above mine seems to have a note of resolution to it, but I suppose this is on a slightly different note (and this is a general response not necessarily directed at you, Lord Ba'al). But I honestly don't imagine it should be all that surprising that we'd select a moderator who has a generally optimistic spirit towards the game. We're not looking for a "yes man" but we also have to keep the broader context of things in mind. There seems to be a bit of a misnomer that anyone who has anything positive to say about the game must clearly be disingenuous. Frankly, that's a bit silly in my opinion. Saying someone's opinion is invalid because they have an opinion, especially when they've never pretended otherwise, is a bit much. On a similar note, and for those who are curious, here's a quick recap of Aynen's community history. He joined the backer forums (which means he's a backer, just like many of you here) on 31st January, 2013. At 12:51pm. In the near year and a half that he's been a member of that community he has contributed 926 posts to date. That's very nearly 1,000 posts! He has always lurked on Steam and is keenly aware of it and its history but posted there sparingly. Muir is typically more active on Steam but less active on the backer forums. Aynen is typically more active on the backer forums but less active on Steam. We felt this complimentary coverage was optimal. Also, even before he was a moderator he would personally reach out to me on Facebook, Twitter, Skype, and private messages on the forums giving me suggestions for what the community would like to see, their concerns, and so forth. For example, when I first mentioned that the forums were getting revamped he got in touch the very next day with some suggestions and changes that we might want to consider. He genuinely wants the best for this community and, ultimately, the game that we're all here talking about. We also needed more help on the community front for a number of reasons, two of which are that things will be getting quite busy when the PC sprint comes around and also because George and I are fairly busy already. We're not looking for manpower, we're looking for support. Optimally, Aynen isn't here to discipline but to help fill in some gaps on the community team. Lastly, I find it a bit demoralizing that some of you seem so vehemently convinced that because George and I work on the community team that we, surely, must be marketing goons with no souls whose only function is being a mouthpiece for some corporate mastermind. Perhaps this is me being a tad too forward but I don't think you realize that, in many ways, George and I are some of your biggest supporters. We're in your corner more than you may realize. Granted, it's a two way street of meeting the needs of the game while meeting the needs of the community and we try to make these two things mesh as much as we can (and without the influence of any of our own opinions, bias or otherwise). We're gamers, just like you. Hell, take a look at my Steam profile. I love games. And I, just like many of you, have my own opinions on what is and isn't a good game. So when I share that opinion, whether it's about another game or the one we're working on, I am truly being genuine. I personally feel that someone in my position should never support or espouse a game in which they do not personally believe in. So if I talk positively about the game then that's because I genuinely like something about it. There are countless opportunities for community work in this industry, which is to say that I wouldn't be here if I didn't want to be. Anyhow, my apologies for any possible ranting that just occurred. I'm always pretty direct with you guys, even when it skirts a fine line. It's my hope that you all appreciate that directness, if only because I feel it's important.
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